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Post by kiwichappers on Mar 15, 2007 9:28:18 GMT 12
The first three models of an ever expanding series of aircraft covering the career of Warren Schrader. The Mk Vb Spitfire is based on the Tamiya kit and Ventura decals. The Mk IX is the ICM kit with an assortment of Aeromaster decals. Finally the Tempest is an Eduard kit finished once again with Aeromaster decals and a little hand painting. I am currently on with a F3 Meteor built straight from the Tamiya kit as YQ - H which he flew on the 3rd May 1945, easy! Following on from the Meteor will be a Me 262.    Now heres the rub on the 24th September 1943 he flew a Macchi Mc 202 from Sicily to Malta and I am looking for information and details about this particular aircraft. Can anybody help me? |
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Post by corsair67 on Mar 15, 2007 13:55:26 GMT 12
Beautiful work there, kiwichappers.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Mar 15, 2007 15:38:09 GMT 12
Yes, beautiful looking models  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 15, 2007 16:17:17 GMT 12
Fantastic work there. I cannot help on the Maachi, sorry.
Any particular reason you've chosen Warren Schrader to base your models on? It's a great idea.
I was thinking only yesterday you could do a series of models based on those flown by Kiwi aces, and i was thinking in particular Bob Spurdle's P-40's and Spitfires would make a great set. I thought of him as he was one of the more interesting aces I met at the opening of the NZFPM. He was a smashing bloke and we got on well, as were Des Scott and Colin Grey when I shared a beer or two with them.
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Post by agalbraith on Mar 15, 2007 20:27:13 GMT 12
Outstanding work there, thanks for posting the images. Sorry I cant help either but will ask around my friends just in case.
Cheers
Anthony(feeling inspired!)
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Post by kiwichappers on Mar 15, 2007 21:53:39 GMT 12
Thanks for the flattering comments guys, a nice response to my first photo post.
Dave
The initial and continuing trigger is Malcolm Laird's 'Classic Warbirds' series. Warren Schrader is one of many I have in mind although if I manage to build half of them I will be happy and was chosen simply because I had most of the elements in place to start building. Along the way I 'discovered' the Me 262 and last week the Macchi so the series will have an interesting variety of aircraft. I am also kidding myself that there may be an NAC DC 3 and 737 to round out his career but they are getting big in 1/48!
Colin Gray and Des Scott are very strong candidates, especially Des Scotts Typhoon with 'Napier Sabre' [the wee fox terrier] posed on the fuselage.
Series I have in mind are not based on ace status necessarily, but rather on interesting histories and include Jack Cleland who in spite of only two kills [on the same sortie] did several tours on Mk VII Spitfires with 616 Squadron RAF and one in early filletless P51D Mustangs with the 363rd Fighter Squadron USAF.
Others on the list are;
Harold Newton who flew Beaufighters, Mosquitos, and an Airequipe from Europe to New Zealand and was also one of our neighbouring farmers in Taranaki for many years so local interest reigns.
Keith Park - Bristol F2B, HP 0/400, Hurrcanes 'OK 1 and 'OK 2', and the Battle of Britain class locomotive 'Sir Keith Park'
'Mad Mac' McGregor connecting the Walsh Brothers flying school, Sopwith Pup, SE5a, various Spartan Arrows, the 5th in the London - Melborne air race in a Miles, and finally the 'Chocolate Aeroplane' through the early days of NZ aviation.
Mike Ensore - War service in Blenheims, Hudsons, and Liberators. Followed by Yorks in the Berlin airlift then Neptunes, Vampires, Meteors, Shackletons, and Canberras.
Roy Buchanan - a nice series of PR Spitfires culminating with a PR XIX.
Finally for the helicopter brigade there is Ron Gellatly the test pilot for Fairey on the Rotodyne and subsequent Westland machines after the take over of Fairey.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 15, 2007 22:25:48 GMT 12
Excellent choices there.
For Keith Park, may I suggest the aerial combat he experienced in a Beaufighter flying from Malta (as the passenger!).
I know I've pushed this a bit here lately but one RNZAF pilot who flew a lot of interesting types was Trevor Pearce, who's book is now on my site, and the photos will be online soon. Such things as Tiger Moth, Crane, Anson, Lysander, Bolingbroke, Harvard, P-40 and Corsair in his varied career.
Popeye Lucas would be another classic, things like Wellingtons, Venturas, C-47, Hudson, etc plus his civil flying.
I'm personally considering a theme of Cambridge models to go with my website. Aircraft up for consideration include:
Bill Well's Spitfire Mk V "WAIKATO"
Roy Calvert's Lancaster "Taipo"
David Liviningstone's P-40 or perhaps one of his Spitfires. Need more info on him though.
Ron Watt's Mosquito (488 Sqn)
Trevor Ganley's Hudson that he was shot down in
Kan Law's Wellington (before the fire!)
Keith Caldwell's SE-5A as depicted at Omaka
Bryan Cox's Corsair from the Green Island Incident
there are many more I could do. I have a spare Tamiya Lancaster and am tossing up over Roy's TAIPO or John Morris's ill-fated 75 Sqn Lanc with a Donald Duck nose art.
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Post by kiwichappers on Mar 15, 2007 23:49:04 GMT 12
Ah yes Popeye Lucas, I forgot about him for a moment, although he is on the list. He crosses over into the Mad Mac series as he learned to fly in the DH 60 Moth that became the 'Chocolate Aeroplane". I also omitted the Grebe from Mad Mac's catalogue of types.
As an additional question concerning Warren Schrader does anybody know what aircraft were used by 71 OTU [aerial gunnery school] at Ismalia, Egypt? Warren Schrader was posted there as an instructor from Malta on the 10th of June 1944 until early 1945.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 16, 2007 0:36:27 GMT 12
One type used at 71 OTU was the Gladiator Bottom of page surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/gladiator_raf_otu.htmSome unit info here www.rafweb.org/OTU_4.htm71 OTU also used Hurricanes including one in this quote: "One of the first Hurricanes delivered to 274 Sqn, P2544 served with the squadron until Spring 1941 when it was sent to No.71 OTU. It was severely damaged " |
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Post by tempestwulf on Apr 8, 2007 17:34:53 GMT 12
It's amazing that for such a small country NZ had the highest # of ace's/capita of any combatant county in WWII. Thank god there's enough reference material becuase like most of you already know, RNZAF and pilots is a theme close to our heart and easy enough to model (well...maybe).
Thanks for the pic of Schrader's Mk Vb too, I had the Tamiya kit (cheap from Trademe) but didn't want to buy the Redroo Mk Vc conversion as I was to build John Milne Checkets Spit.
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Post by kiwichappers on Jul 17, 2007 0:33:59 GMT 12
Right chaps some more of the story. This is one of the three Meteors Warren Schrader flew on the 3rd of May 1945. During the flight he passed the port wing and engine through a "fast growing tree" and returned to base on one engine with a wrinkled wing. This is Tamiya kit which has the correct configuration for the initial 616 squadron F3 Meteors fitted with Welland engines. My intendion was to build YQ-F but when I opened the kit and discovered it had markings for YQ-H all changed.    |
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Post by kiwichappers on Jul 17, 2007 0:41:18 GMT 12
And now for the next part of the saga, the Me 262. This is work in progress and shows the cockpit and gun bay. I am once again using a Tamiya kit although this time will have to make the correct marking, must have a word to Mr. Tamiya about his oversight. There has been a lot of rain here lately so lots of modelling in case you are impressed by the flurry of activity.    |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 17, 2007 9:50:24 GMT 12
Fantastic work. That Meteor is gorgeous.
You had a problem with the Meteor photo links which I've now sorted out for you.
Is Mr Schrader still alive?
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Post by corsair67 on Jul 17, 2007 10:25:22 GMT 12
Absolutely awesome work there. I thought it was Summer in your part of the world?  |
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Post by tempestwulf on Jul 17, 2007 18:42:20 GMT 12
Awesome work on the Meteor, Spits and the Tempest. I have to say getting you hands on the Eduard Tempest isn't cheap so it'll sit at the back of my mind for a while.
I was to make Evan Mackie's Tempest in 1/72 but got REALLY sick of seeing his markings (no offence to the man). Made a 486 Sqn bird instead (SA-C NV937).
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Post by kiwichappers on Jul 17, 2007 20:42:15 GMT 12
Guys generally, The flattering comments are appreciated. Dave, Thanks for sorting the photo links. I was wondering where the other photos went. I do not know if Warren Schrader is still alive despite having tried to find this out on several ocassions. The last report I have of him is that he had retired to Orewa. I am interested to know if he is still alive. Corsair67, It is summer, apparently! The english term summer means something completely different to Kiwi summer from my observations. English summer is two fine days and a thunderstorm and its all over. Tempestwulf, I have a few Eduard Tempests at sensible prices, if you are interested. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 17, 2007 21:52:37 GMT 12
In that case this must be him (from WhitePages.co.nz
Schrader W E & V
34/65 Tauranga Pl, Orewa, Hibiscus Coast
0-9-427 0534
I'm sure he'd be very pleased to recieve photos of your models
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Post by tempestwulf on Jul 17, 2007 22:27:17 GMT 12
Thanks Kiwi, I would be interested. If you can give me a price including postage. I picked up Aeromaster decals for Desmond Scott's Typhoon and also Shedden's Tempest so that's much appreciated.
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Post by kiwichappers on Jul 18, 2007 3:31:40 GMT 12
Dave,
Marvellous to have an address for Warren Schrader. I will certainly get some photos of to him and probably include a few questions also in an effort to close the book on some of the fringes of my research.
Tempestwulf,
The Tempests should work out to $NZ32.00 by the time they fall through your letter box. $NZ20.60 for the kit and $NZ11.60 postage although this will reduce for more kits in the same parcel.
They are the basic Eduard kit of the early Tempest which I prefer because I do not think the extra bits in the Profi kits are worth it. On my Warren Schrader Tempest I used the Eduard etch set and Ultracast seat in the cockpit, Ultracast wheels. There was also a bit of 'surgery' on the fuselage to lengthen it [about 6mm] and to thin down the rudder and change the leading edge rake. This has been made a lot easier now as there is a chap in West Loathian, Scotland making a plug in resin tail section which I think is spot on and will be using on my future Tempests [search on ebay uk using 'Tempest 1/48' search then look at Alley Cat] which should be about $NZ20.60. I know this seems like a drama to produce a model but as its the only game in town thats how it has to be if you want a half decent 48th Tempest.
Ciao
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Post by tempestwulf on Jul 18, 2007 17:55:45 GMT 12
Thanks heaps, I'll definately buy the Tempest off you for that price. Just e-mail me tempestwulf@hotmail.com with details for payment and I'll do me best for ya.
I also noted in a previous thread someone asking if 486 Sqn flew early mark Tempests. Photo I found confirms this as SA-N (JN766). Can't say if it had fishplates as per first generation Tempests but it has the extended barrel covers which may help.
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