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Post by glideboy on Oct 20, 2008 19:21:37 GMT 12
Barrie Reid passed away a few weeks ago and has left hundreds of photos, video and other RNZAF memorabilia. Some photos appear in the 'Introduce Yourself' section. Here are some more. Most have been pasted into album so I am not sure of the source, however I would say most can be attributed to 'Air Force Museum'. He also has many photos of Air Force personnel including many of his students. Please give me feedback as to whether this is interesting/useful or not... Meteor, SQDN 14 Vampires July 1955 Harvard over Christchurch Vampires SQDN 14 Harvard Assorted Airman
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Post by skyhawkdon on Oct 20, 2008 19:36:46 GMT 12
Interesting photos and welcome to the forum. Any early Skyhawk photos in the collection?
Have the family considered donating the collection of photos etc to the RNZAF Museum? They will be interested in any old film/movie clips I'm sure. If they are any good I would also recommend getting them copied onto a digital format for long term presevation.
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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 20, 2008 19:48:48 GMT 12
Some really great photos in there... 'Yes Please' - keep posting them !
Can anyone identify the CFS pilots there ?... believe Stu Boys is one of them.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by glideboy on Oct 20, 2008 21:15:10 GMT 12
Interesting photos and welcome to the forum. Any early Skyhawk photos in the collection? Have the family considered donating the collection of photos etc to the RNZAF Museum? They will be interested in any old film/movie clips I'm sure. If they are any good I would also recommend getting them copied onto a digital format for long term presevation. No we are not sure what we will do with them yet. Barrie has 4 grandchildren of which one is an aviator but currently overseas. The National Film Archive have a copy of Barrie's video, infact I'm pretty sure a saw a clip from this recently on TV1 when the news ran an article on a reunion (Rocket attack from a Vampire/Venom in Malaya filmed from the cockpit) He doesn’t have any original pictures of skyhawks but you may be interested in this. Apparently this was removed from the first skyhawk that crashed at Ohakea. It was presented to Barrie by the pilot (his name currently fails me but I'm the forum readers know).
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Post by glideboy on Oct 20, 2008 21:18:07 GMT 12
Some really great photos in there... 'Yes Please' - keep posting them ! Can anyone identify the CFS pilots there ?... believe Stu Boys is one of them. Rgds Hvd1041 I am seeing Anne (Barrie's ex wife) tomorrow so I will ask her. I have heard her and my wife mention Stu Boys and Barry Flavell, but I'm sure Anne can name most of them.
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Post by glideboy on Oct 20, 2008 21:54:43 GMT 12
Here are some more, again these are all "Air Force Museum". From left LAC Mason (Typist), FLT Lt Thomas (Nav. Instructor), SGT Sig Doyle (Sig Instructor), F/S Truwhit (Sig Instructor), FLT Lt Webster (Nav Inst), F/S Nightinggale (Eng Inst), Mast. Sig Walls ('E' FLT CDR SIGs), FLT Lt Parker (Nav Inst), FLT Lt Hancock (Pilot Inst: Pilot Nav, Weapons), FLT Lt Milne ('C' Flt COR (Alots)), SQN LDR Hill (OC Ground SQN), FLT Lt Gaspard ('D' FLT CDR (Navs)), FLT Lt Reid 9'F' FLT CDR (All aircrews initial stage)) Photo dated Dec 1960. Unnamed students 26th April 1962 Undated 19th Aug 1962
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 20, 2008 22:49:39 GMT 12
Fascinating photos! Thanks for posting these.
I believe that is one of the No. 14 Squadron Meteors flying with the Venoms isn't it? It's a ripper of a photo.
It is interesting to see the piece from the Skyhawk that Fred Kinvig ejected from too.
As for names to faces, I am sending an email to a few of the pilots form that era and see what they say
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 20, 2008 23:17:33 GMT 12
I'm glad that by the time I joined the RNZAF they'd modified the way you sat in the front row for an official photo to legs uncrossed and straight up and down, with arms outstretched and fists above the knees. This earlier method looks like they're all busting for the loo.
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Post by phil82 on Oct 21, 2008 0:03:03 GMT 12
I shouldn't think Barrie had anything much to do with the Skyhawk. He was in Wellington from 1969. The pilot of the one that crashed near Bulls was [then]Wg Cmdr Fred Kinvig, who would have known Barrie very well. In fact Fred was also in Wellington for quite a while both prior to and after his crash. He ejected by the way, but broke a leg landing on a fence post!
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Post by skyhawkdon on Oct 21, 2008 6:39:04 GMT 12
That piece of wreakage from NZ6207 is classic! If you are looking for a good home for it let me know! We had a similar piece in the 75 Sqn SNCOs crew room - the tail number "NZ6207" from the rear fuselage. I don't know what happen to it when the Squadron was disbanded - hopefully it went to the RNZAF Museum??
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Post by shorty on Oct 21, 2008 7:02:56 GMT 12
Fascinating photos! Thanks for posting these. I believe that is one of the No. 14 Squadron Meteors flying with the Venoms isn't it? It's a ripper of a photo. Those Venoms are Vampires! (From the Cyprus days)
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Post by glideboy on Oct 21, 2008 7:27:41 GMT 12
That piece of wreakage from NZ6207 is classic! If you are looking for a good home for it let me know! We had a similar piece in the 75 Sqn SNCOs crew room - the tail number "NZ6207" from the rear fuselage. I don't know what happen to it when the Squadron was disbanded - hopefully it went to the RNZAF Museum?? Sorry mate, Barrie specifically gave that to me. He was quite proud of my very modest achievements in gliding, so it has sentimental value.
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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 21, 2008 7:59:40 GMT 12
Great photos - keep them coming !
I think at one stage - many people had bits of NZ6207 (Fred Kinvig at OH- 1974) as souvenirs - being the first A-4 to crash... (believe John Dick's fatal - 1981 was the second ?) - I know at WB there were various bits - including a mock-up (used at the Court of Inquiry) showing how the pressure plate of the oil pump could be installed backwards - which was the basic cause of the crash.
Keep the photos coming - especially like the Harvard shots out of Wigram - late '50 - early -60s.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by Bruce on Oct 21, 2008 10:00:30 GMT 12
a fair percentage of the Harvards in that selection are still flying too... '65, 66, 85 and 75 are all still flying I beleive here and in Australia. Awesome pictures, thanks for posting them.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 21, 2008 10:39:31 GMT 12
Whoops, I meant Vampires when i typed Venoms. The point was you don't often see photos of No. 14 Squadron's Meteors
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Post by phil82 on Oct 21, 2008 11:21:42 GMT 12
14Sqn never had Meteors Dave. There was only one Meteor ever came to New Zealand, and that ain't it! It arrived in NZ in 1946, and did a tour of the country at the hands of one Sqn Ldr Bob McKay, who later held the position of Black Rod in the Beehive. It was flown by a lot of RNZAF pilots, but NZ never bought any and it was eventually scarpped in 1957, at Hobby I think. That photo of the Vampires with the Meteor was possibly taken in Cyprus 1952-55 where we flew loaned RAF Vampire FB9s. {I've just noted that Shorty had already mentioned Cyprus}
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 21, 2008 11:51:43 GMT 12
No. 14 Squadron operated two Meteors in Cyprus, along with their Vampires. But on checking the serials, this is not one of them.
They were T.7 models WH206 and WL400.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 21, 2008 12:04:45 GMT 12
According to this page www.ukserials.com/results.php?serial=WHMeteor WH398 was a T.8 Quote: d/d 10/03/1952, s.o.c. 12/01/1962 as CAT 5c at No.389 MU Seletar, Singapore And this site says: www.aviastar.org/gallery/012.html"A number of F.8s were converted to T.T.8. standard after the F.8 had left first-line service and the last Meteor in the Far East Air Force was T.T.8 WH398, which retired from Seletar air base at the end of 1961."
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 21, 2008 12:09:34 GMT 12
As the closest Vampire to the Meteor is in fact WG884 that conclusively proves this is No. 14 Squadron's Vampires, flying from Tengah. WG884 was operated by them from May to August 1955
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 21, 2008 12:13:26 GMT 12
It's interesting how rough those FB.9's looked, and how they still wear their old No. 60 Squadron RAF markings
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