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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 13, 2012 18:06:53 GMT 12
Its these kind of response from the CAA that we expect, dodging the issue .
If they are aiming for increased safety they may well be on the right track, certainly if there is no one flying they will have a 100% safety rating which will look marvelous on paper and when they file their annual reports, big pats on the backs all around.
It is a classic example of coming to the first answer and running with it, obviously there was very little as far as thought that went into other solutions for the finance short fall.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the $7.5 million short fall recently equates to almost exactly the $8 million that it cost to relocate to Wellington central.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Oct 13, 2012 19:42:48 GMT 12
The thing that just frustrates me the most, which Ryan pointed out very well, is that they are putting the burden on the sector of aviation that can least afford it, and in a country like New Zealand, without GA the aviation industry as a whole simply can't exist.
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Post by craig on Oct 14, 2012 8:17:39 GMT 12
Bloody govt departments. Instead of looking inside their own business to make savings, they simply heap more charges on to the already struggling clients (us). I have been involved in aviation for 25 years and can still remember the good old days when CAA produced a document called "Flight safety". What a great publication that was. The latest version "Vector" pales in comparison. To my way of thinking in that time charges have gone up and client satisfaction has gone down. If this were not a protected govt department, competition would have driven them out of business years ago. This latest stunt will be another nail in the coffin of the already struggling private aviation sector. But CAA don't care. They will just keep heaping charges on those remaining. Slowly but surely squeezing the life out of GA aviation in NZ.
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 14, 2012 9:41:20 GMT 12
I also enjoyed the old 'Flight safety' magazine and find the 'Vector' a little strange by comparison.
This in itself could save the CAA quite some money. There are two people living in my house, we receive 3 copies of the Vector (one for each licence holder and one per aircraft owner) and at work we receive 3 copies.
In this day and age with E magazines etc why can't they send out a small form for everyone to fill out that says 'how would you prefer to receive your Vector? Ezine or Magazine form' and also how many copies per household. I know this sounds kind of petty and insignificant but its this type of thing that when repeated 4 or 5 times through a business costs a huge amount.
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Post by craig on Oct 14, 2012 10:00:49 GMT 12
Yes Ryan Its this type of thinking which CAA needs. Rather than except high cost structure and simply pass it on to the captive client base. As I say they would not survive with this attitude in the private sector. What is needed is a outside hatchet man/woman to come in and slash the hell out of their cost structure. Get some CAA heads rolling!!!
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 14, 2012 10:24:48 GMT 12
230 people listed on the CAA website as staff. If the average salary was $45K/year that equates too $10.3 mil....I bet the average isnt $45K either.....WOW
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Post by dakdriver on Oct 14, 2012 10:34:59 GMT 12
Annual fee for maintenance of Register - $36.80 to $99 4562 aircraft in New Zealand annual fees collected =$451,638.00 Change of registration - $87.91 to $394 average of 10 per month = $47,000 Reservation or Allocation of a particular Registration Mark - $30.67 to $197 average of 5 per month $11,820.00 per year Foreign owner deregistration fee - $0 to $440 average 5 per year =$2200.00 Total income for this department with 2 personal,1 office and 1 computer $512,658.00 (Who is kidding who here)
Note Number of aircraft obtained from CAA register/Number of persons in register office from CAA website/ supplied amounts from CAA website/ the rest of the numbers are conservative estimates
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 14, 2012 11:03:24 GMT 12
dakdriver - yes very interesting.
What needs to be brought out into the open, unless this has been done and I am unaware, is what sectors and departments within the CAA are running over budget or running at the biggest loss. They then need to answer why. I for one would be very interested. It seems as if they have taken a broad spectrum fire hose approach and just applied random pricve hikes to the areas that were easiest to gouge money from.
3987 Class 1 medical holders x $313 = $1,247,931 This would be annually and some of these people would need mediacls every 6 months so the figure could be higher.
6431 Class 2 medical holders x $313 = $2,012,903 These are every five years, some less so it would be approx $402,580/year
Pretty small figures really when to think an increase of the passenger levy of $0.17 would achieve the same thing (based on approx 10,000,000 pax annually)
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Post by dakdriver on Oct 14, 2012 21:17:30 GMT 12
And so CAA income for the GA sector a total of 46 inspectors @ $284.00 per hour for 4 hours a day (can’t work them too hard) = $3396640.00 per year Annual fee for maintenance of Register - $36.80 to $99. 4562 aircraft in New Zealand annual fees collected =$451,638.00 per year Change of registration - $87.91 to $394 average of 10 per month = $47,000 Reservation or Allocation of a particular Registration Mark - $30.67 to $197 average of 5 per month $11,820.00 per year Foreign owner deregistration fee - $0 to $440 average 5 per year =$2200.00 $512,658.00 3987 Class 1 medical holders x $313 = $1,247,931. This would be annually and some of these people would need medicals every 6 months so the figure could be higher. 6431 Class 2 medical holders x $313 = $2,012,903 These are every five years, some less so it would be approx $402,580year So that brings the total to $7570512.00 We have not started to calculate the income from the big boys yet but this gross ripping off of a very small aviation public has got to be verging on extortion and something needs to be done to stop it. The more letters to your MP the better, there are a couple of good ones on this thread use the info in them to format your letter and get it off as soon as you can. As far as I can see this increase is really setting GA up for its demise the big question I have of the government
WHY ARE WE BEING BILLED BY AN ORGANISATION THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE RULE MAKER AND POLICEMAN OF AVIATION?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 14, 2012 21:44:19 GMT 12
How about convincing all commercial airline pilots to refuse to take off if they have politicians and CAA staff aboard their aircraft - that would soon get things relooked at in a hurry. I'm told this action was taken successfully as a protest in the USA but I don't know the details.
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 14, 2012 22:24:35 GMT 12
The passenger levy, really difficult to calculate so this is a guess based on some rough data from the Ministry of Economic Development figures. Approx 10 million domestic passenger movements annually and a similar number of international, so;
10 mil x domestic pax levy, the figure varies a little but its close to $1.50 = $15,000,000 10 mil x international pax levy, again the figure varies but close to $1.50 = $15,000,000
Please tell me if these figures are way out of kilter but even if they were $1 each we are still looking at $20 mil.
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Post by craig on Oct 15, 2012 6:28:01 GMT 12
Anybody know what the median wage in CAA is.
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 15, 2012 8:58:10 GMT 12
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Post by flyjoe180 on Oct 15, 2012 9:02:51 GMT 12
That's a lot of money in wages! The FB link doesn't work Ryan.
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 15, 2012 9:07:53 GMT 12
Sorry, Im not facebook savvy. It seems to work if you copy and paste it.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Oct 15, 2012 9:11:05 GMT 12
Cheers.
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Post by craig on Oct 15, 2012 9:39:01 GMT 12
Theres our answer. Knock those wages back to under 100k and save 14 mill. Might even be able to have some fee reductions
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Oct 15, 2012 11:28:22 GMT 12
The more I look at the figure re the $166k the more I think I am mistaken. This may be the amount budgeted to each staff member annually for non chargeable hours, staples and sellotape but may include the salary.
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Post by AussieBob on Oct 15, 2012 12:51:39 GMT 12
This may be helpful in taking out some of the guesswork in CAA salary payments in your calculations, although only for 2010-2011 FY. From the CAA Annual Report, which also includes financial on the incomes from fees and charges and of course the standard KPI performance criteria. Available here; www.caa.govt.nz/publicinfo/annualrepandprof.htm
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Post by flyinkiwi on Oct 15, 2012 13:02:02 GMT 12
So no one directly employed by the CAA earns less than $100k? How do I get a job working for them? ;D
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