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Post by Peter Lewis on Jun 21, 2009 9:02:50 GMT 12
In the first two weeks of July we are traveling through central Australia and the Northern Territory.
Mrs Flyernzl tells me that the route she has arranged is: flying into Ayers Rock township, tour Kata Tjuta/Uluru/Kings Canyon, Alice Springs, Ghan train overnight to Darwin, Kakadu, Katherine, Mirambeena, Darwin, and then back home.
Within that route I have identified the following aviation artifacts that seem to be worth visiting: - Central Australia Aviation museum located in the old Connellan Hangar, which includes wreck of Keith Anderson's Westland Widgeon G-AUKA 'Kookaburra' - Katherine Outback Heritage Museum, which holds Dr Clyde Fenton's Gipsy Moth (is this VH-UJN?) - Australian Aviation Heritage Centre, Darwin. Intact B52 and Mitsubishi Zero wreckage.
Does anyone know of any other interesting aviation items or sites within this route that may also be worth a visit? Thanks.
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 21, 2009 9:36:05 GMT 12
Taking a scenic flight over Uluru/Ayers Rock might interest you?
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Post by Darren Masters on Jun 24, 2009 13:06:43 GMT 12
Definitely recommend a scenic over Ayers Rock and surrounds. Also a scenic flight out of Alice Springs will take you over Simpsons Gap which is just magic! In Alice (just out of town) you will also find the RFDS (Royal Flying Doctor Service) museum. You can purchase various aviation-related items there and it is quite interesting. Hope this helps.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jun 29, 2009 11:26:24 GMT 12
Well that has given me something to go on with. There is a replica Qantas Avro 504 with an original engine on display at Sydney airport. I'm told that there is a Corsair restoration underway at Darwin that is said to have a NZ providence. Does anyone know what/where/who? The Fenton museum at Katherine gets more and more fascinating. The Moth in residence is VH-UNI but he did operate others. Fenton was apparently quite a character, will a low threshold for officialdom as per this snippet from the pprune forum: "Katherine was home base for Dr Clyde Fenton, ca 1934-1939. He was a one man band medico/pilot in his succession of DH Moths, for Clyde had a great propensity for walking away from crashes, immediately resuming the fund raising for his next one. Clyde's "Flying Doctor" is one of the funniest books of it's kind ever published. One time on a stinking hot day he took off from DN for KT. In the front was the KT hospital matron. After an hour or so bouncing around Clyde was concerned to see her head and shoulders moving round vigorously. No voice tube and no radio needless to say.
Clyde hands her a note "You alright?"
Back comes matron's note. "Yes. I am now thank you. Now that I've got my blessed corsets off."
Hard book to come by. The Central Australian Air Museum in ASP had a few copies recently. Contact Perry Morey. (He, incidentally, is an authority on the life of the late Clyde. Has an unpublished bio.)
Clyde waged a ceaseless war of telegrams and cables to and from the Civil Aviation Branch in Melbourne. When they sent him one saying that his aeroplane was grounded forthwith and his licence suspended, he replied
THEY ARE ROUND AND THEY BOUNCE.
FENTON."As is usually the case, the Museum and associated literature assumes that VH-UNI was his one-and-only aircraft. I have tracked down some photographs on the net: VH-UOI: VH-UJN: VH-UQV: VH-UNI: He must have patched up his disputes with the authorities as the Fox Moth VH-UZS was apparently supplied for his use by the State Government. That's him standing beside it. We shall see what we find. Don't you hate it when you get back home and someone says "You went all the way there and you missed seeing ..... !"
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Post by corsair67 on Jun 29, 2009 12:01:22 GMT 12
Peter, that particular Corsair is the ex-RNZAF Museum's F4U-5.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 2, 2009 20:45:45 GMT 12
No leads on the location of that Corsair. Maybe the guys at the Darwin museum will know. Is this the ex-Disney one? Dave, any ideas where it is now as your museum site just lists the fact that it was there with no further information.
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Post by fah619 on Jul 5, 2009 2:47:30 GMT 12
Flyernzl:
Good day!
The F4U-5 mentioned is a F4U-5N (Buno 123168) fm the Disney collection c. 1987. It was also an ex Honduras AF (HAF 603) circa 1960s. The current location of this aircraft is in Perth, Australia. We understand its new scheme will be the HAF colors dark Navy blue. Any pictures either at RNZAF Museum or in Perth are welcome!!
p.s I'm also looking to get in touch with Mr. Lewis Peek of NZ who took several pictures when the aircraft was under restoration at the RNZAF Museum at Wigram. Tks
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Post by lesterpk on Jul 5, 2009 12:31:00 GMT 12
Just out of Darwin on the way to the Jumping Croc cruises you pass some of the old wartime airstrips, they have display boards and you can clearly see they were once airstrips.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 21, 2009 23:35:00 GMT 12
Well we have returned from a most interesting - and on two occasions frustrating - trip. The flight AKL-SYD with Qantas went well, we were ticketed at Auckland through to Ayers Rock airport. Picked up our bags to clear customs at Sydney, got through that OK and then the fun started. The Qantas domestic transfer at Sydney airport is a complete disaster. We had two hours to make the transfer, and we needed every minute of that and more. Huge queues, few staff, and arrogant and inefficient screening procedures. Since we were already 'checked in' for the domestic flight, why do we need to check in again? That's just the way it is, fella. Racing through the domestic terminal with the final boarding call assaulting our ears, I did glimpse the Avro 504 replica through a glass wall but I had no chance of getting a better look at it. Thanks for nothing Qantas. Better luck next time. Ayers Rock Connellan is 737-capable: The name commemorates Australian pioneer aviator Eddie Connellan who pioneered airline services in the Alice Springs area. Although Connellan Airways operated flights into Ayers Rock/Uluru it would seem unlikely that he ever used the current airfield as this dates only from 1982 and Connellan sold out to East-West Airlines in 1980. Outside the terminal there is a memorial to him comprising a Heron propeller and a commemorative plaque: The original airfield used by Connellan was right at the base of Uluru, and was apparently known as the 'four winds' as it was quite normal for all the windsocks to be indicating in different directions (no doubt due to eddys caused by the rock itself). Connellan Airways became known as Connair in 1970, and this painting of the scene at the original airfield would have been created at around this time: I have marked the location (from information supplied by the locals) on this photo taken during a circuit over the site in a 172: The houses at the lower right were the original town, but now comprise the indigenous people's settlement. The current resort is out of picture to the right. We did the scenic as recommended, a nice fairly new 172 but winced at the placarded landing fee of AUD55: More to follow as I get the photos sorted.
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Post by FlyNavy on Jul 22, 2009 0:12:03 GMT 12
Forgot to mention the Kata Tjuta (ROCKS) in the background of your great rock photo - if you did not go there on the ground, then seeing them from the air is a great substitute. Thanks for the photos flyernzl.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jul 22, 2009 11:00:49 GMT 12
Looks like you had a great trip Peter, nice photos too.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 22, 2009 21:45:15 GMT 12
Yes we visited Kata Tjuta (aka The Olgas) and actually trekked into some of the valleys there. In my view photographically more impressive than Uluru itself. Moving on to Alice Springs, the old town airfield hangars are now the site of the Central Australia Aviation Museum. (The sealed runway is now a road, Memorial Avenue). As you enter the museum site, a small building on the right is the Kookaburra Memorial. Nothing to do with the feathered variety, the Kookaburra was a 1927 Westland Widgeon III c/n WA.1775 which was sold new into Australia and allotted the registration G-AUKA for owner Keth Anderson. Anderson was a friend of Charles Kingsford-Smith, and when Smithy failed to arrive at Derby on a flight from Sydney on the 30th March 1929, Anderson and co-pilot Hitchcock went looking for the lost aircraft in the Widgeon which, at that time, had not been issued with a CofA. Engine trouble forced the Widgeon to land undamaged in the desert 128km SE of Wave Hill Station about 18S 132E on 10 April 1929. The crew were able to repair the engine fault, but scrub and soft sand defeated their efforts to take off again. Search efforts found Smithy on the 12th April (the Southern Cross was able to take off again once the landing area dried out) and the Kookaburra on the 21st April, but by then both Anderson and Hitchcock had died at the site. Later ground parties removed the bodies but the Widgeon remained in the desert. Scrub fires destroyed the wood and fabric from the airframe, and after considerable effort the wreck was rediscovered by John Haslett and Dick Smith who arranged for the retrieval of the wreckage to be displayed 'as found' in this small and poignant display. As found in the desert 1929: Northern Territory Library.Model of the Kookaburra on display at the museum: More to come.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jul 23, 2009 9:56:41 GMT 12
That Kookaburra display is very interesting Peter. Such a sad story about Anderson and Hitchcock, despite their problems with Kingsford Smith they still went out to find him. From memory Anderson had kept a diary on the rudder while they waited in vein for rescue, and that is also preserved somewhere.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 26, 2009 18:24:19 GMT 12
Alongside the Kookaburra Memorial, at what was the Alice Springs town aerodrome, is the Central Australian Aviation Museum. This is housed in two hangars, the original Connellan Airways structure and a newer one. Inside the Connellan hangar are two aircraft, Beech D.18S VH-CLI and CAC Wackett Trainer VH-BEC: The Beech actually has a NZ history, arriving in New Zealand in 1957 to serve with the short-lived Trans-Island Airways Ltd., Oamaru as ZK-BQE 'Spirit of North Otago'. It left the USA as N3010V to fly to NZ via Europe, Asia and Australia. A take-off accident at Brisbane on 9Nov56 during delivery flight damaged the undercarriage. This was repaired, and the Beech arrived in April 1957. However, later that same year spar damage from that incident grounded the aircraft for some time, and after repairs were completed it went to Australia in January 1960. The Wackett was lost after a compass error during a cross-country flight in 1962. The aircraft was recovered in 1977 and restored for museum display. This hangar also contains a number of engines and other aviation memorabilia. The second hangar is dominated by a DC-3 painted up in Connair colours as VH-EWE. The original EWE served with Connellan from 1973 to 1977 and after a period with a McDonald's Restaurant is still extant in South Australia. The Douglas on display here is actually ex VH-EAL,VH-EBH,VH-EBW,VH-BAA and VH-BBA. Alongside the Douglas sits DH Dove VH-DHH. This aircraft spent it's entire life with the Northern Territory Aero Medical Service. Connellan started his airline with a fleet of two Percival Gulls, VH-ACM and VH-UVA. UVA was lost in a crash and ACM is still active elsewhere in Australia. Proctor IIA G-AHAZ / VH-AVG has been repainted as VH-ACM to represent this period of local history: Up and behind the Dakota, hanging from the rafters are to smaller aircraft - a SchneiderES-52 Kookaburra glider VH-ANM and a Kelly Sport microlight: To one side of the hangar, Auster J-1/B Aiglet VH-ASQ sits on some high beams. This was last airworthy in the early 1980s, and was flown locally at around that time. Outside the complex, on a post, is DHA3 Drover VH-FDC, looking a little weatherworn: Strangely, throughout the whole visit, there was absolutely no mention of the 1977 incident where a disgruntled ex-employee of Connair flew a Beech Baron into the buildings and killed or seriously injured a number of people. See: www.bushmag.com.au/History/The%20Silent%20Grief%20of%20Alice%20Springs.htmmore to come
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jul 27, 2009 11:18:34 GMT 12
Beaut photos Peter, what a fabulous variety of aeroplanes.
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Post by FlyNavy on Jul 27, 2009 11:35:35 GMT 12
flyernzl, Peter, your link take us to the story and why it is not 'public' knowledge: "He said the families of the dead hadn’t given permission for this chapter of aviation history to be included in the exhibits or for any commemoration ceremonies; they felt it was too soon. Mr. Morey had proposed a short summary of the incident for the museum but until family members gave permission, it remained classified information."
You may not be aware that Aboriginal cultural sensitivities exist about naming and seeing images of dead people. Not knowing more than is in the story at the URL I would imagine that this is another reason why the story is not told in the museum. Most programs that have aboriginal content in Australia carry a warning for aboriginal viewers about possibility of seeing dead people on screen or them being named. I would guess that the affected people, although not aboriginal probably, have taken up some of that sensitivity; or they are just sensitive to it today as explained in the story.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 5, 2009 23:46:49 GMT 12
You could well be right, FN. I was aware of Aboriginal sensitivity in this area (along with not taking any photos of them) but I did think that this respect was fairly short term - a couple of years perhaps. It is now 30+ years since the incident. However, after a hiatus for others things, continuing the story: The other must see at Alice is the Royal Flying Doctor Base, This is a short way from the old airfield, and is now operated as a visitors centre with organized tours. Radio room museum and cafe. No longer an operational centre, that's now at Port Agusta. After an overnight trip on the Ghan (in a sleeper but not lot of sleep) we arrived at the town of Katherine. The old airfield there is now operated as the Katherine museum, with appropriate signage The original strip is still quite evident, last used for aircraft in 1975 This is the airfield where Dr Clyde Fenton operated his own Flying Doctor service in the mid to late 1930s and his original hangar is still standing Inside the hangar is the first of his DH60 Gipsy Moths, VH-UNI. Bought by Fenton in early 1934, he crashed it at Victoria River Downs Station in May 1934. The remains were later retreived, taken to Darwin, and rebuilt in 1937. The aircraft then passed through private owners until being grounded with engine damage in 1987. It was taken to the museum in 1989 and has been on display since. The accommodation for the passenger is quite spartan! Fenton was quite a stroppy character. His beef with the RFDS was that they chartered their aircraft from QANTAS, and would therefore only operate from licensed airfield. Fenton would fly into any convenient paddock, and also pioneered the idea of flying his missions at night so that the rivers and tin roofs of the homesteads would then show up clearly in the moonlight. Brave man. In contrast, about five miles further out of Katherine, I spotted this relic at the side of the road, providence unknown:
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