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Post by shamus on Mar 30, 2010 16:30:56 GMT 12
Does anyone know anything more about this incident. What type of airplane was it.  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Mar 30, 2010 19:06:45 GMT 12
I thought possibly the WAR Focke-Wulf 190 ZK-FWI
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 30, 2010 23:24:37 GMT 12
Ooh, that sounds like a nasty incident, I hope he recovers.
The article states that it was a refurbished engine mounted on a frame. There's no mention of it being attached to an aircraft.
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Post by shamus on Mar 31, 2010 9:01:58 GMT 12
Another case of bad reporting. The first part of the article says, 'as he was trying to start his home-built plane', the later part says the engine was attached to a frame for testing.
So which was it?
Also the headline says, Antique Plane, an antique home-built?
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Mar 31, 2010 14:50:08 GMT 12
Doesn't sound too good! Best wishes to him for a quick recovery.
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Post by furyfb11 on Apr 1, 2010 10:00:36 GMT 12
The engine is a Pratt and Whitney R2800 that has been restored from two derelict R2800s that were aquired by Classic Flyers at Mt.Maunganui. Unfortunately the chap involved was wearing a nylon shirt which ignighted and most of his burns happened when he tried to remove it. He was sent to Hamilton Hospital for treatment but has now returned home  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 1, 2010 10:33:17 GMT 12
A lesson there for everyone I think.
I'd love to hear that engine running someday.
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Post by shorty on Apr 1, 2010 14:11:19 GMT 12
Pity you can't believe the newspaper report as a "home built" plane with a R2800 in it would be a pretty mean machine!
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Post by shamus on Apr 1, 2010 16:55:30 GMT 12
Yes, I would love to see that too, Shorty.
Thanks for that information, furyfb11. I wish him well for a speedy recovery.
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Post by Bruce on Apr 1, 2010 21:06:35 GMT 12
Certainly makes you think.. I'm hoping to do some initial fast taxi runs in CKE shortly, and I might just wear my Nomex flight suit. It would be the absolute very worse case scenario that I would need it, but this incident has got me thinking. Pity some people think it looks a bit "try hard" to wear a flight suit in a light aircraft. Would be interested to hear peoples opinions on use of flight suits in GA.
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Post by lumpy on Apr 1, 2010 21:31:40 GMT 12
Personally I think if you have the gear , wear it . I personally have seen several motorbike riders " running in " engines that I have rebuilt , come back and say " thank goodness I had my gear on " ( obviously they had helmets , but Im talking full body armour ) . They were lulled into a false sense of security , believing that going easy on their bikes would prevent them crashing . Accidents happen !
That said , I dont really see CKE doing this
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Post by Radialicious on Apr 1, 2010 21:37:03 GMT 12
Oh how the years have passed. When I was a teenager and restored my Cheetah radial, the very same thing happened. It was over-primed, burped fuel over me as I cranked it and then set me on fire. I lost lots of hair, eyebrows and a layer of clothing. The Labour Dept never came and saw me and the only person that was responsible was me. My mates ushered me to a topdressing tank and dump valve that dumped enough water on me to upset the earth's balance and sort me out. My how the world has changed. Labour Dept?!?
Admittledy I didn't have skin falling off me and I hope the guy that did is on the road to recovery. If he is anything like me, he will happily put up with a reasonabe amount of suffering to achieve a result. The photos of the two R-2800's is mouthwatering and I would love to meet the guys that wanna breathe life back into them. Keep it up fellas!!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 1, 2010 23:46:21 GMT 12
Interesting to hear your experience Al. Good to hear you were not too badly hurt.
I guess the amount of oil that a mechanic can get layered in whilst tinkering with a radial engine can exaserbate the problem when there is a flash fire. Does anyone know if the usually fireproof cotton blue overalls most mechanics wear can actually burn if they are all oil and grease-covered?
I don't see any problem with wearing the fireproof overalls Bruce, no matter what aircraft type you're working on. Among the purposes of the suit, looking cool is surely down the list way below keeping the wearer safe.
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Post by baz62 on Apr 2, 2010 9:01:36 GMT 12
Hmmm yes makes me think now all those times I flew a 140 around wearing a t-shirt and shorts. (Oh those legs oh the humanity they wailed!!) Makes me think if I had crashed and there was a fire............
I suppose the risk of crashing a light aircraft is low but then so is crashing a car.
Yeah R2800s!!! Oh to hear those babies run! I was trying to figure out what those engines are out of? With those props would it be a B26 Marauder?
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Post by corsair67 on Apr 2, 2010 10:29:54 GMT 12
Poor blighter. I hope he isn't left with any serious legacies from this experience.
Bruce, I reckon it's fine for any pilot to wear a nomex flightsuit, even if some people might think it looks try hard. Anyway, the flightsuits that aren't sage or tan don't look so military, so maybe you should try and find one of those?
Just don't strut out to the tarmac with your flightsuit covered in Top Gun patches, and I think you'll be okay. ;D
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Post by Bruce on Apr 2, 2010 10:46:59 GMT 12
I'm picking the engines are ex Curtiss C46 Commando (with 4 Blade Curtiss electric props). Most of the other alternative aircraft using R2800s have Hamilton Standard, or other 3 bladed props, or would be so rare that two engines would be very unlikely to be found!.
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Post by baz62 on Apr 2, 2010 10:57:23 GMT 12
I'm picking the engines are ex Curtiss C46 Commando (with 4 Blade Curtiss electric props). Most of the other alternative aircraft using R2800s have Hamilton Standard, or other 3 bladed props, or would be so rare that two engines would be very unlikely to be found!. Ah yes thats probably right Bruce. I was racking my brain for a match and totally missed the C46. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 2, 2010 11:32:49 GMT 12
Were any Commandoes ever broken up in New Zealand or would these have been imported as is?
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Post by baz62 on Apr 2, 2010 12:10:24 GMT 12
Probably imported I'd say.
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Post by furyfb11 on Apr 2, 2010 14:31:05 GMT 12
They are beleived to be from a C46 and were retrieved from the jungle on Guam.
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