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Post by alanw on Nov 6, 2010 16:17:43 GMT 12
Hi all Have been doing some research for a build I have been wanting to do, and with all the P 40 discussion (and not wanting to hijack any threads), I thought I would post this. I had been toying with doing a P 40E in RAF colours (US equivalent) of 14 Squadron and some topics ago the name "Umslopogaas" came up and intrigued me!! Did some research and found that "Umslopogaas" is a character from Sir Henry Rider Haggard's Allan Quatermain and Nada the Lily, see link www.violetbooks.com/umslopogaas.htmlThe question I guess which begs to be asked is what prompted the pilot(s) of NZ3008 NQ-B to paint that on the aircraft I can't help but wonder if the (they) pilot(s) were quite widely read and a hero from school days? What say you? Regards Alan
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 6, 2010 16:34:07 GMT 12
A number of their aircraft at that time had outlandish-sounding names, such as Parkyakarkus (which was the stage name of a radio and hollywood star at the time) and Magnolia Mufflewort, so perhaps it was just a case of finding the silliest nickname for the aircraft. I believe that Geoff Fisken is the only living pilot from the squadron from that era but perhaps there are some groundcrew around still who can add more? Geoff didn't remember much about the names when I asked him.
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Post by alanw on Nov 6, 2010 22:26:09 GMT 12
Hi Dave
Thanks for that.
In Haggards books Umslopogaas was a heroic Zulu warrior, so I guess on a fighter aircraft that name would be a good thing.
Regards
Alan
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 6, 2010 22:43:20 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 6, 2010 22:50:18 GMT 12
I wonder if there is any record in the No. 14 Squadron Unit Diary about painting of individual names on aircraft, which got which, and what the reason was? Probably not but maybe someone out there could check perhaps.
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Post by pauld on Jun 4, 2011 19:51:59 GMT 12
NZ3008 was flown a fair bit by Flt Lt ( Later Air Cdr) Stan Quill DFC I have several items of his in my collection. Methinks it was named due to the fact that it was a hard one to fill with gas? or perhaps it was sent out without the fuel tank caps secured properly and it thusly leaked gas all over the place? anyhow its a good mystery that , i for one, would love to crack
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 5, 2011 9:29:19 GMT 12
Paul, do you happen to have Stan Quill's flying logbooks? I'd love to see some scans of pages from the Masterton days and later in the Pacific from that first tour, including the trip north from Norfolk where he jumped into the sea.
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Post by pauld on Jun 5, 2011 9:53:06 GMT 12
Hi Dave, No Sorry i don't but i have an idea they are at Wigram. Will endeavour to pop out and see them and ask to see the logbooks I have his Mess Jacket and Miniatures along with several badges including his Justice of the Peace Badge! also his flying pilots brevet and some other 14 Squadron badges
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 5, 2011 11:12:36 GMT 12
I'd be interested to see his 14 Squadron badges please.
As to my earlier statement above about Geoff being the only living pilot of that era of No. 14 Squadron, that's not right, Noel Hanna is still with us too. But again he didn't recall anything about the names apart from the famous names exisiting.
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Post by baronbeeza on Jun 5, 2011 19:25:23 GMT 12
I hope not to hijack the thread too much, - mention of Stan Quill's mess jacket got me thinking.
The young Pilot Officers and Flying Officers at Ohakea decided to have a "single striper's" dinner party one Saturday night. Just something different I guess.
What was completely different was there was a 'gate crasher' of sorts. Stan was a mess member and a 'single striper' at the time.... this would have been in the very early 80's. What a great gesture from a fine man....
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Post by pauld on Jun 14, 2011 9:17:46 GMT 12
Dave, i will get a pic soon when i clean up the mess the Earthquake of yesterday left behind in my collection room Baronbeeze, thanks for that wee snippet of information, adds to his story Cheers Paul D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 5, 2011 14:35:13 GMT 12
Looking at a photo that John Saunders sent me of NZ3007 HQ-A I now realise the name on it is not MAGNOLIA MUFFLEWORT, but instead it seems to be MAGNOLIA MUFFLEWURT.
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