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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 12, 2009 23:19:42 GMT 12
I used to fly a C180K model (ZK-JFG) with a three-blade McCauley propeller and a Robertson STOL kit. It was a lovely smooth machine, although it was quirky in a crosswind. You always used full flap (or none at all) in a crosswind because the ailerons were drooped with the flaps up to 30 degrees flap which limited their defelction. They went to full travel again at 40 degrees flap. I believe that Robertson STOL system was part of a float plane kit? JFG came from PNG originally, having flown with MAF there. It was badly damaged in a crash near Kawakawa Bay near Ardmore years ago and was rebuilt with the mods, which was how I first flew it. I did around 500 hours in that aeroplane and loved every moment in it.
I think Colin (Kereru) has some good photos of JFG in action at Ardmore.
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 12, 2009 23:25:35 GMT 12
This one has no STOL enhancements except Micro VGs I put on a couple of years ago...
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Post by dave.k on Nov 13, 2009 19:23:17 GMT 12
Re Robertson STOL The late Tex Smith borrowed the agwagon to do some carrots on the odd occasion when the Mt Cook 185s were busy, when it came back the paint was missing off the droopy conical camber wingtip, Tex rang up to say he got a chuff wind turning finals and the wing scraped the tussocks, as the ailerons droop with flap not a lot of movement.
The wagon didn't like mud either, when working on muddy strips, every few loads we had to wipe the mud off the top of the wing and the leading edge of the tailplane, suppose it acted like ice.
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Post by dakman on Nov 17, 2009 7:17:10 GMT 12
re the c180 top pic maybe its zk azz recall rural also had c170 azc with a hopper in it bit cruel on the aircraft???
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Post by dakman on Nov 17, 2009 14:40:53 GMT 12
ok so not azz can anyone confirm when bgm came into nz service Have a poor pic undated of it possibly at Te Kuite any ideas as c/s looks very similar to the mystery 180
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 21, 2009 2:56:43 GMT 12
Just to keep it going ,here's BXV at the Mt Cook airfield 1969  |
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 23, 2009 17:10:26 GMT 12
In the Eddie Coates collection there are several shots of 180s with a cylinder on the starboard wing which may or may not be connected to the hopper...used to know what they were but can someone please enlighten me?
Also, many, many years ago used to go to a 'strip' at Welcome Flat in the Copeland Valley in a 180..is that still used?
Thanks.
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Post by 185skywagon on Nov 23, 2009 18:19:19 GMT 12
Also, many, many years ago used to go to a 'strip' at Welcome Flat in the Copeland Valley in a 180..is that still used? I was just up there on foot a few weeks back, didn't know there was a strip there. Where abouts was it do you remember ?? I think there was a big land slide there maybe back in the 80s took out the hut maybe the strip too ? |
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Post by weheka on Nov 23, 2009 18:30:25 GMT 12
No strips that are usable in welcome flat these days chinapilot, possibly still there, but overgrown, and the great DOC would have you by the b***s if they caught you!
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 23, 2009 18:39:25 GMT 12
Wasn't a strip or such but just a clear area..  Just Googled the area now and trying to remember if it was that area on the southern bank and upstream...know we used to walk over to the hut and springs...but seem to remember another shingle bar was used further upstream also... This was in the mid 60s and had some photos but long lost with many moves over the years...frustrating. |
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 23, 2009 18:41:50 GMT 12
Oh...didn't realise it was like that now...  |
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Post by 185skywagon on Nov 23, 2009 18:43:06 GMT 12
43°38'6.19"S 169°58'11.63"E
That kind of looks like the remains of a strip...East - west, those numbers are in the center. About 300m worth. Might that be it ?
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 23, 2009 18:55:58 GMT 12
Excellent! Think that could be it ..well spotted - just trying to figure out how we got the hut from there Wish I still had those 'Instamatic' photos.... |
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Post by 185skywagon on Nov 23, 2009 19:01:47 GMT 12
just trying to figure out how we got the hut from there Wish I still had those 'Instamatic' photos.... It is does look like a fair hike. The Current hut location is different to the old one, perhaps that was closer ? Google Earth is brilliant for finding strips and places, I could spend all day on here looking for spots to land  |
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Post by chinapilot on Nov 23, 2009 19:28:09 GMT 12
Isn't it great...also just put the co-ords in your GPS straight away.
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