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Post by hairy on Aug 19, 2005 12:33:25 GMT 12
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Post by Bruce on Aug 19, 2005 15:50:05 GMT 12
Does it include glue and paint?
Its a good price but essentially appears to be a kit of metal components - just like a mossie project, one would have to build the main wooden airframe sections. Pity I dont have a few thousand bucks to spare, might be a good project once I've finished my own aircraft.....
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 29, 2005 23:32:39 GMT 12
That is an interesting and promising collection that would be great for a project. Imagine if the right people get it, it could be restored beautifully, perhaps even to fly. I know the enthusiastic chaps at the Ashburton Museum are constructing an Oxford cockpit and I'd bet they'd love this to help the project, but I would rather see this become a complete aircraft rather than just a cockpit. I'm sure the Subritzky's will have shown some interest too, as they are rebuilding their genuine one and a flying replica too. This lead me to wonder just how many Oxbox's still exist in NZ, in one form or another: - NZ1332 with the Subritzky family, near enough complete and original - NZ277 - Parts of recovered from wreck site on display in the Taranaki Aviation Transport And Technology Museum with various parts assembled from other sources. - NZ2144 - The nose and components are apparently held by Philip Burns at Dunsandel. - NZ1289 - The RNZAF Museum holds components of this and are incorporating them into their restoration of a Canadian Oxbox I understand - NZ2155 as seen up for sale And, one that really intrigues me is this one at Werribee in Australia www.oldcmp.net/werroxford.htmlDoes anyone know what it's serial is? When did it go to Aust? Who had it previously? For a reputedly extinct aircraft type in NZ there's a lot of them still about. I hope at least one can grace our skies again, and I look forward to seeing the Wigram and Subritzky examples completed too. |
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Post by Bruce on Aug 30, 2005 7:30:44 GMT 12
Aparently the subritzskys have an ex Singapore Airlines Consul under restoration - is this the "Replica" you mention?
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Post by hairy on Aug 30, 2005 7:34:32 GMT 12
I spoke to Mike to make him aware of this cache, he has seen it previously and thinks for what is there it is over priced, apparantly these oxford parts have been availiable for some time. Graham Orphan also has an Oxford project that he has bought in from OZ, he also thinks that the asking price is at least 50% too high for what is there.  |
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Post by hairy on Aug 30, 2005 7:37:03 GMT 12
Aparently the subritzskys have an ex Singapore Airlines Consul under restoration - is this the "Replica" you mention? Isn't the ex-Singapore Consul the one that the RNZAF has, the Subritzky replica is a new build using the original that they have as a guide. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 30, 2005 9:02:07 GMT 12
Yes the RNZAF's one was a Consul and is being adapted back to Oxford status. It was sourced in Canada and is, I believe, on loan, but the RNZAF Museum is doing the restoration using parts of Oxfords from their own collecion. I hope the Canucks don't ask for it back when it's done.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 30, 2005 11:00:31 GMT 12
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Sept 30, 2005 19:15:44 GMT 12
The ex Singapore Airlines Consul is currently with us at Mandeville (has been all along). Unfortunately the project has stalled at the moment due to various factors (funding, politics etc). We have finished all of the tail feathers and were due to start on the centre section until we were asked to stop, all work to this stage was done to an airworthy standard although Singapore hadnt made the decision as to whether it would be a flyer. As to whether the parts for sale would be a goods start to a project?  ?? The Oxford/Consul is an absolutely monumental project, and really you can build anything with enough time and money, but for the money you would sink into doing the Oxford there would be at least 10 other aircraft I would rather have. It really would be a huge money pit.... I think perhaps a cockpit display is much better at this time than having the parts disappear as so often happens as they are scattered to the four winds with various collectors, even a nice museum display leaving them in their current condition. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 30, 2005 19:41:05 GMT 12
Thanks for that Ryan. Very interesting.
So in NZ right now we have two Consuls being restored (one to Oxbox configuration, one stalled), a genuine Oxford and a replica Oxford - both with the Subritzky collection. Plus the parts on offer. A healthy population compared to a few years ago when the type was considered extinct in NZ.
Wouldn't it be amazing to see [one day] the Singapore Consul flying alongside the Subritzky's Oxford replica at an airshow. That would be amazing. But we can only dream for the time being.
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Post by Bruce on Sept 30, 2005 19:48:38 GMT 12
not to mention the large pile of bits from the Mt Egmont Oxford in the Taranaki Aviation and Transport Museum......
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Post by ZacYates on Feb 1, 2022 5:14:09 GMT 12
Forgive me if this was answered in another thread, but whatever happened to this collection? Is it the basis of Stu Atkinson's project?
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?? The Oxford/Consul is an absolutely monumental project, and really you can build anything with enough time and money, but for the money you would sink into doing the Oxford there would be at least 10 other aircraft I would rather have.