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Post by shorty on Jan 7, 2011 21:45:58 GMT 12
I have the newspaper clipping about the Rotorua accident and the middle photo features so maybe they were sourced from the newspaper?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 7, 2011 21:47:49 GMT 12
I am amazed that Mangere still has a decoy aircraft in May 1945. I wonder what it was, a Hudson, a P-40 or a Hurricane?
It's great to see these Lodestar shots, an underated type in both the RNZAF and civil aviation.
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Post by hairy on Jan 7, 2011 21:49:20 GMT 12
Lodestar continued. ZK-ANB ZK-ANC at Whenuapai. ZK-AOP at Whenuapai. ZK-AOS ZK-AOT at Whenuapai. ZK-APU at Whenuapai (Hey, this one doesn't look like all of the others ) . ZK-ASX is a "not quite an airliner" airliner, it was issued free to the Civil Aviation Administration from the RNZAF on the 26th of January 1949 but was never put into service and was eventually broken up at Rongotai in October 1950. Another Lockheed product that falls into the "not quite an airliner" category is Hudson ZK-AHY (ex NZ2079) which was transferred to Union Airways as a crew trainer in July 1945. AHY was withdrawn from use and returned to the RNZAF in December 1946. Here is Hudson ZK-AHY at Mangere in April 1946. Next up will be the DC-3 (24 of )
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Post by hairy on Jan 7, 2011 22:42:30 GMT 12
I have the newspaper clipping about the Rotorua accident and the middle photo features so maybe they were sourced from the newspaper? Just to muddy the waters a little bit more. In Brian Waugh's "Turbulent Years - A Commercial Pilot's Story" a photo of ALC burning is credited to "The Aeroplane Shop".
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 8, 2011 0:05:08 GMT 12
It's great to see these Lodestar shots, an underated type in both the RNZAF and civil aviation. There was an article in the Gisborne Herald during the Metroliner era with Air NZ Link/Eagle Air when a Metroliner on a flight from Auckland to Gisborne (it may possibly have been the other direction) broke the previous speed record for an airliner on that route, making use of a tailwind. The fastest trip by an airliner between the two centres prior to that record-breaking Metroliner flight was held by a NAC Lockheed Lodestar. Obviously the Fokker Friendships weren't fast enough to break the record held by the Lodestar.
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Post by pjw4118 on Jan 8, 2011 18:45:59 GMT 12
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Post by hairy on Jan 8, 2011 19:11:53 GMT 12
DC-3 time....... ZK-AOD ZK-AOH ZK-AOJ ZK-AOZ ZK-APA ZK-APB ZK-APK ZK-AQP ZK-AQS ZK-AQT ZK-AQU ZK-AWP 12 down, 12 to go.
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Post by hairy on Jan 8, 2011 19:27:53 GMT 12
Really enjoying this thread Hairy and what a great archive this site is building up. Here's four shots of Lodestars that haven't been shown. You're welcome and thank you for the additions (I was hoping that others would add their pics too). I totally agree about the 3 wheel Fordson(?) tankers, did any survive? Cheers
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 8, 2011 19:28:55 GMT 12
Those Dakotas look so nice and shiny. Thanks Marcus!
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Post by hairy on Jan 9, 2011 15:09:00 GMT 12
Hope you're not getting too bored, here's more DC-3s .................. ZK-AWQ ZK-AXS (not quite an airliner as it is a CAA DC-3) ZK-AYK ZK-AYL ZK-AZA (photographer unknown) ZK-AZM ZK-AZN ZK-BEU ZK-BKD ZK-BKE ZK-BYD (photogragher unknown) ZK-BYE (photographer unknown) Next up the DC-4s and DC-6s.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 9, 2011 15:25:15 GMT 12
Great shots again Marcus. Thanks for those. Does anyone know what year NAC began painting the roof and tail of the Dakotas white? To me that's the really classic scheme with the white on top.
I always find it amusing how the ground staff dressed like ice cream men back then with peaked caps and crisp white uniforms. Keeping your hat on while on the tarmac must have been an issue I guess, especially at Rongotai.
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Post by hairy on Jan 9, 2011 20:37:10 GMT 12
DC-4 VH-BPC, I've decided to include this as British Commonwealth Pacific Airlines was 30% NZ owned. DC-6 ZK-BGA VH-BPH, as with the DC-4 above this is a BCPA aircraft. BPH became ZK-BGC with TEAL with the liquidation of BCPA in 1953. NAC's littlest airliner was Miles Gemini ZK-AQO which was bought new for the South Westland service in 1947. Almost forgot one, Avro Anson ZK-AXY of Southern Scenic Air-Services. Next up will be classic airliners visiting NZ, starting with the Avro Lancastrian.
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Post by shorty on Jan 9, 2011 21:24:06 GMT 12
What is the title on ZK -AQP?
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Post by hairy on Jan 9, 2011 21:37:44 GMT 12
What is the title on ZK -AQP? Freightair Services.
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Post by hairy on Jan 9, 2011 21:42:27 GMT 12
. Does anyone know what year NAC began painting the roof and tail of the Dakotas white? To me that's the really classic scheme with the white on top. 1962-63 when they were converted to Skyliner configuration?
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Post by turboNZ on Jan 9, 2011 21:47:27 GMT 12
brilliant photos, thanks for sharing.
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Post by hairy on Jan 9, 2011 21:58:17 GMT 12
brilliant photos, thanks for sharing. Hey Turbo, thanks for that. Long time no see, I'm living in your neck of the woods (Wellington) now.
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Post by turboNZ on Jan 9, 2011 22:09:54 GMT 12
we must catch up
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Post by hairy on Jan 10, 2011 23:46:15 GMT 12
we must catch up That we must. As promised here are, mainly at Whenuapai, some visiting Classic Airliners . 1st up BOAC Avro Lancastrians. G-AGLF over Palmerston North (sort of). G-AGLW "Northhampton" G-AGME "Newhaven" Now some RAF Lancastrians VL980 VM701 Are what appear to scorch marks on the front of the hangar a result of the Hudson incident? VM735, 26 November 1956 Now for something a little bit different, Lincoln RE364 "Aries II" with Lancastrian like mods, two Lincolns were modified in this manner (the 2nd being RE367), these conversions were nicknamed "Lincolnians". And to round out these visiting Avros, York PE107. Next up will be something a bit different from Boeing.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 11, 2011 1:08:05 GMT 12
Great photos of some unusual vistors there. The 'scorch marks' on the hangar would not be from the Hudson I don't think. In fact I think it's the remnants of camouflage paint. I think the hangars were painted there, I know they were at Hobsonville and Wigram. Hobsonville had the entire grass airfield painted to look like something it wasn't from the air.
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