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Post by Andy Wright on Jan 11, 2011 23:44:59 GMT 12
Bloody brilliant, Hairy. I keep entertaining the idea of building a model of a Lancastrian but, as usual, still thinking about it. These will help with the inspiration in the distant future!
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Post by hairy on Jan 12, 2011 13:34:48 GMT 12
Now for todays installment. First up is Pan Am Boeing 377 Stratocruiser N1025V, "Clipper Rainbow" (later renamed "Clipper America"). Canadian Pacific Airlines C-4-1 Canadair Four, CF-CPJ "Empress of Auckland". Consolidated LB-30 AL504 "Commando" at Whenuapai on the 8th of November 1944 after conversion to RY-3 standard. (RNZAF Museum) DC-4 time............. NC37734 was a flying showroom called "Atlas Sky Merchant" for Atlas Tires, Batteries and Accessories. Where it had been. The showroom interior. NC78883 of Transocean Air Lines (apologies for the poor quality) PH-TDM "Aalsmeer" of KLM, above the windows on the port side it had "The Flying Dutchman" and over the windows on the starboard side it has "De Vliegende Hollander" Next up will be Pan Am DC-4s.
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Post by hairy on Jan 12, 2011 13:40:01 GMT 12
Bloody brilliant, Hairy. I keep entertaining the idea of building a model of a Lancastrian but, as usual, still thinking about it. These will help with the inspiration in the distant future! Cheers for that, I have multiple views of some of the above Lancastrians that may help if you decide to model one of them.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 12, 2011 14:43:43 GMT 12
Was that 'flying showroom' concept a rarity or a common occurrence in those days? I guess pre-internet it would have been a great way to take your product to foreign markets.
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Post by bobgod on Jan 12, 2011 18:28:20 GMT 12
After the D.H.Comet disaster, I was bemused by the fact that the DC-4 [unpressurised] had round pax.windows, and the DC-6[pressurised] had square windows!
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Post by hairy on Jan 12, 2011 19:25:31 GMT 12
Pan Am DC-4 time........................ NC88881 "Clipper Kit Carson" NC88883 "Clipper Kathay" with lots of Daves "ice cream Men" waiting, 17th December 1946. NC88885 "Clipper Courser" NC88886 "Clipper Mandarin" 8th November 1946 NC88887 "Clipper Behring" 20th October 1946 N88946 "Clipper Argonaut" NC88948 "Clipper Westward Ho" NC88951 "Clipper Racer" 4th August 1947 NC88955 "Clipper Resolute" 20th October 1947 NX88895 "Clipper" (was never given an individual name) 19th January 1946 I hope you're not too bored as visiting Australian DC-4s are next.
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Post by eieio on Jan 12, 2011 20:15:35 GMT 12
I have been around a while but have never heard of INTAVA. Who were they?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 12, 2011 21:07:18 GMT 12
How often was the service between Auckland and the USA in the 1940's? Surely it must have been weekly? There can't have been a lot of call for it I'd think.
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Post by ams888 on Jan 12, 2011 22:13:48 GMT 12
They started painting the DC3's in that scheme before converting them to skyliners. I have a picture of some lined up on the tarmac in this scheme from 1962-1963.
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Post by hairy on Jan 12, 2011 22:23:23 GMT 12
I have been around a while but have never heard of INTAVA. Who were they? It's sort of still around, it just has a different name - INTAVA was the aviation fuel and lubricants division of the Vacuum Oil Company which in turn became part of Mobil and then ExxonMobil. (Google is my friend ) One of their ads from the July 1943 Wings magazine can be found on the link below.............. www.spitfiresite.com/hobbies/art-memorabilia/uploaded_images/Spitfire-in-advertising-No3-(WINGS-6th-July-1943)-736186.jpgIt looks like they rebranded to Vacuum shortly after, this appears to be the same tanker in Vacuum livery with DC-4 NC88885 in the same era.
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Post by hairy on Jan 13, 2011 20:54:34 GMT 12
Okay, more DC-4s Australian National Airways VH-ANA "Amana" (Hands Across), March 1946 VH-ANB "Lackrana" (Great) VH-AND "Tatana" (Father) 13th June 1947 whilst on charter to BCPA. (Can you imagine chaos if families were still allowed onto the tarmac at international airports. ) VH-ANG "Palana" (Star) at Harewood in 1947. Qantas After service with ANA, VH-ANG became VH-BPD with BCPA, then it became VH-EBM "Philippine Trader" with Qantas. VH-EBM was chartered to TEAL to operate the first Christchurch - Melbourne (return) flight on the 29th June 1951. Trans Australia Airlines VH-TAB "Thomas Mitchell", 2nd May 1947 RAF C-54 KL979 of No.1359 VIP Flight, 19th December 1945. At Whenuapai after returning NZ Minister of Labour Mr.P.C. Webb and his party from the UK. On the return flight to the UK (via. Washington) it transported Prime Minister Peter Fraser to the first meeting of the UN General Assembly in London. A detailed account (well worth reading) of this flight can be found about 1/3 of the way down the page on this link - sforsugar.com/chapter5.htmlUSAAF C-54 42-72581 VC-118A (DC-6) 53-3240, Wellington, Jan. 1966. (photographer unknown) This was Airforce One for a period and is still extant at Pima Next up will be Handley Page visitors.
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Post by hairy on Jan 15, 2011 1:43:37 GMT 12
Okay, final instalment.......... Handley Page Halifax London Aero & Motor Services (LAMS) Halifax freighter conversion, G-AIWK (ex. PP295) "Port of Sydney", 1947 RAF Halifax VI RG815 "Mercury", October 1946. Mercury was a flying classroom with the Empire Radio School and was equipped with H2S, 111G, Gee II, Rebecca II and Loran. The visit was a part of a world tour to demonstrate the latest advances in Navigation Aids to Allied Air Forces and RAF stations abroad. Stops on the tour included New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Ceylon, India, The Middle East, South Africa, Canada and the USA. (Note the US Legation C-45 in the background.) Hastings RAF TG503 on a demonstration tour with stops including NZ, Australia, India, Pakistan and France. TG503 still exists having been one of the final 4 Hastings in RAF service and was retired on 30th June 1977 and is on display at the Allied Museum in Berlin. RAF TG617, Oct/Nov 1950 Lockheed Constellation QANTAS VH-EAA "Ross Smith", 26 April 1951 Unfortunately this is the only Connie I have photos of in NZ. Vickers Viking Vickers demonstrator G-AJJN, 10th of May 1947. RAF VL248, this was the flying workshop with the Royal Flight. Anyone know why, and when, it was here? Here's some that I missed that should have been earlier in the thread.............. De Havilland DH-114 Heron ZK-BBM (photographer and details unknown. DC-3 5W-FAA of Polynesian Airlines at Harewood, this was the first aircraft registered in Samoa. (D.Woodhall photo) USAAF C-47B 43-48706 with "American Embassy, Wellington N.Z." titles. USAAF VC-47D 43-48777 used by the Military Air Attache of the American Legation, Wellington. This aircraft was transferred to the South Vietnamese Air Force, when South Vietnam fell 43-48777 escaped to U-Tapao in Thailand and, surprisingly, is still there in a derelict condition. Well, that's it for now, I've run out of subjects. I have multiple views of most of the aircraft posted, therefore if there is an aircraft that you would like to see more of, just let me know.
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Post by kb on Jan 15, 2011 9:00:58 GMT 12
Hairy, these are possibly the most interesting sets of photos I have ever seen and I have been around for a while. Absolutely fantastic and I would love to see more.
I had no idea that NAC ever painted any of their Lodestars in proper airline markings even though they used to fly over our home in Beach Haven when I was a little kid.
The ANA DC-4 photos reminded me of the big scrap they had with BCPA when it was formed. ANA of course flew the routes intended for BPCA pending formation of the latter company and developed a propriety attitude toward those routes even though they were always intended for BCPA. When they were forced to hand over not only the routes but also the DC-4's they were extremely unhappy and did their best to sabotage the new airline. I understand that among other things they took any low hour engines off the aircraft and replaced them and spares with time expired and very high hour ones even though the purchase price didn't allow for that.
The good old days!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 16, 2011 16:48:30 GMT 12
Thanks very much for all these photos Marcus, they're really interesting. Have you any more of the USAAF C-47B 43-48706 with "American Embassy, Wellington N.Z."
Does the US Embassy still have it's own aircraft in NZ these days?
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Post by hairy on Jan 16, 2011 19:38:53 GMT 12
Hairy, these are possibly the most interesting sets of photos I have ever seen and I have been around for a while. Absolutely fantastic and I would love to see more. My pleasure, anything in particular you would like to see?
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Post by hairy on Jan 16, 2011 19:55:26 GMT 12
Thanks very much for all these photos Marcus, they're really interesting. Have you any more of the USAAF C-47B 43-48706 with "American Embassy, Wellington N.Z." Thanks Dave, I only have one other view of 43-48706. I pretty sure that they don't. I wonder when they stopped having one and what other types they may used apart from the C-45 and C-47. I've quite enjoyed putting this thread together and wouldn't mind doing another, but I'm not sure on which subject. How about Tiger Moths? I've got some vintage photos of Tigers. The folder size isn't very big (474MB) because they are only cateloguing scans at 800 x 600 in black & white.
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Post by The Red Baron on Jan 16, 2011 20:05:38 GMT 12
Agricultural ones?.....
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Post by hairy on Jan 16, 2011 20:10:25 GMT 12
Agricultural ones?..... Dozens of. ;D But to be frank, I tried starting a thread on ag-Tigers but there was no interest with very few page views and little or no comment.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 17, 2011 10:43:35 GMT 12
Yeah sadly no-one here cares about ag aircraft Hairy. NOT
A Tiger Moth thread would be neat. You've posted some amazing ones in the past on various threads but seeing a dedicated thread with all the RNZAF trainers, ag Tigers, aeroclub Tigers, restored Tigers, etc together would be epic. A Tiger Moth Pile as it were.
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Post by ams888 on Jan 17, 2011 17:07:08 GMT 12
They only ever painted the one that colour (ZK-APU) It was painted that colour while in Australia being fitted out as an airliner by QANTAS, after being bought from the RAAF. It was also missing the "New Zealand" from its "National Airways Corporation" wording above the windows.
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