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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 10:19:57 GMT 12
Post by paddy on Aug 29, 2011 10:19:57 GMT 12
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 10:25:18 GMT 12
Post by oggie2620 on Aug 29, 2011 10:25:18 GMT 12
NZ6204 in fog...with wheels down? Was the other guy leading her in? Is this a photoshopped pic?
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 10:30:21 GMT 12
Post by paddy on Aug 29, 2011 10:30:21 GMT 12
NZ6204 in fog...with wheels down? Was the other guy leading her in? Is this a photoshopped pic? Photoshop is the question. The Slats are up but the Oleos seem to be compressed or is it just my old eyes.
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 10:34:37 GMT 12
Post by baronbeeza on Aug 29, 2011 10:34:37 GMT 12
Perhaps it is not NZ6204 also. The air about the aircraft seems very calm... little sign of airflow. I am sure there is much more to be observed also.
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 10:47:55 GMT 12
Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 29, 2011 10:47:55 GMT 12
When you fly through cloud the mist doesn't just separate or swirl noticeably. Slats are up, and the aircraft is on a slight angle to the camera ship which may explain the apparent oleo position. One thing though, does the A4 have navigation lights on the wingtip which should be on, and would one see the light from the camera ship (i.e. the green starboard light, or its glow, is not visible on the camera ship, and the red nav light is not visible on the topic A4?
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 11:05:56 GMT 12
Post by shorty on Aug 29, 2011 11:05:56 GMT 12
NZ 6204 was not a T Bird!
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 11:09:17 GMT 12
Post by paddy on Aug 29, 2011 11:09:17 GMT 12
NZ 6204 was not a T Bird! Weren't the T Birds all 625?
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 15:32:12 GMT 12
Post by skyhawkdon on Aug 29, 2011 15:32:12 GMT 12
This shot is real. Was taken by Neville (Ned) Dawson in 1999/2000. I used a number of his shots from this flight in the book. They were descending in cloud for a formation landing.
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 15:40:41 GMT 12
Post by Barnsey on Aug 29, 2011 15:40:41 GMT 12
He's stuffed the rego and the date it was taken on...
I'm the one flying the TA-4K pictured (NZ6255) - taken on 08 Sep 2000. It was a photo ex sortie for Neville Dawson, who was taking photos as well as being filmed for an episode of "top jobs" (or something like that). The other photos he has of the 4-ship was taken at the same time.
We had gone over to the east coast for the photos before dropping low level, at which point the Ohakea weather turned pear-shaped. We ended up doing pairs ILSs in trail to minima - during which he obviously took the photo.
Cheers Barnsey
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 15:48:59 GMT 12
Post by paddy on Aug 29, 2011 15:48:59 GMT 12
This shot is real. Was taken by Neville (Ned) Dawson in 1999/2000. I used a number of his shots from this flight in the book. They were descending in cloud for a formation landing. I believe you Don but, they couldn't have made it look more fake if they tried. The attitude is the same as if it was on the ground, the oleos don't appear extended and the lack of position lights sort of say the story. However the dive brakes are extended and you can't do that without Hydraulic power on. Just a very curious photo. My copy of you book is on it's way but it won't make it for today (My birthday) so hopefully for Father's Day. I can't wait
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 15:55:21 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 29, 2011 15:55:21 GMT 12
It's great to not only know it's real but have the pilot's input, thanks Barnsey. And the photographer himself, Ned, used to be a regular contributor on the forum for a while under the username of air-to-air as well. I wonder how he's doing. he takes really wonderful photos and this one is a great example. I love it.
Can anyone elaborate on the question of why the wingtip lights are not showing? Was it just a fluke that they were both on the off pahse of their flashing when Ned clicked the shutter?
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 16:09:38 GMT 12
Post by Barnsey on Aug 29, 2011 16:09:38 GMT 12
Hey Paddy - it's real!!
The RNZAF AAF didn't turn on navigation lights during the day and I have no idea where that doctrine was inherited from, as we did in the RAAF. The only time you'd turn them on in daylight would be to bright/flash to signal "no radio".
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 16:15:03 GMT 12
Post by paddy on Aug 29, 2011 16:15:03 GMT 12
Hey Paddy - it's real!! The RNZAF AAF didn't turn on navigation lights during the day and I have no idea where that doctrine was inherited from, as we did in the RAAF. The only time you'd turn them on in daylight would be to bright/flash to signal "no radio". I believe you Barnsey. As I said it's just a curious photo.
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 16:48:42 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 29, 2011 16:48:42 GMT 12
Thanks regarding the lights. Another piece of history learned.
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 20:52:20 GMT 12
Post by corsair67 on Aug 29, 2011 20:52:20 GMT 12
Hey paddy, I don't know about you, but in cold weather my undercarriage shrinks and contracts, so maybe NZ6255 was having the same problem? ;D
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Unusual
Aug 29, 2011 23:56:32 GMT 12
Post by Tony on Aug 29, 2011 23:56:32 GMT 12
Hey paddy, I don't know about you, but in cold weather my undercarriage shrinks and contracts, so maybe NZ6255 was having the same problem? ;D True, true! My first thought on the pic was that it was a flightsim skin!!!!!
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Post by kiwined on Dec 9, 2018 7:34:15 GMT 12
Some very interesting comments on this thread about my photo, especially the ones saying it's fake. Never posted a fake photo in my life Good to see you are still alive and well Barnsey. That was an awesome shoot. I still remember photo I had looking UP at the Cook Strait ferry as we flew past it. Ned
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Post by kiwined on Dec 9, 2018 15:13:15 GMT 12
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Post by kiwined on Dec 9, 2018 15:13:55 GMT 12
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Unusual
Dec 9, 2018 16:51:20 GMT 12
Post by baz62 on Dec 9, 2018 16:51:20 GMT 12
Don Simms you'll like these...........
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