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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 26, 2010 19:36:14 GMT 12
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Post by beagle on Mar 26, 2010 19:50:18 GMT 12
where did you get this info from
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2010 19:58:27 GMT 12
It's not a sudden revelation, the Navy has known about this for some time and has been planning the purchase of a replacement. The Endeavour does not meet the current international maritime standards for tankers, or whatever class it fits in to.
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Post by beagle on Mar 26, 2010 20:00:46 GMT 12
not double skinned
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 26, 2010 20:10:13 GMT 12
Hmm, Teletext makes it read like it's an unexpected surprise. Hopefully it's all budgeted for and won't eat into other purchases.
Maybe they can find a contractor to build it that won't botch it up like the Canterbury and Otago.
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2010 20:12:15 GMT 12
Well the media like to make things sound more exciting than they are.
'Navy have been planning for the last five years to replace obsolete tanker' doesn't conjure up images of impending doom and gloom.
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Post by Kenny on Mar 27, 2010 12:04:12 GMT 12
Indeed.. i think it was on the MOD website a few years ago.. im actualy suprised they havent replaced it yet?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 27, 2010 13:36:12 GMT 12
Maybe they have been thinking of outsourcing and contracting civil ships to resupply on an as-needed basis.
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Apr 19, 2010 21:34:14 GMT 12
would it not be better if the navy got a tactical tanker rather than a strategic tanker???
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Post by nige on Apr 19, 2010 22:25:33 GMT 12
Navy wants (or wanted) what's called a Joint Support Ship (JSS). Here's a wiki article explaining what a JSS is: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Support_Ship_Project(Although of course NZ would be wanting a smaller tonnage vessel that this Canadian concept). So as well as the ability to carry fuel, aviation fuel and water etc, the vessel also has a couple of helicopter landing spots and room to carry Army type vehicles (from port dock to port dock ie unloads/loads up at a wharf - not via Landing Craft etc) and some troops. A damn interesting concept for NZ, esp for South Pacific re-supply etc. Esp if the Sealift vessel Canterbury is out of action or is deployed elsewhere, then NZ has a second ship available for (some types of) taskings etc. However what Navy wants and what Govt gives (in terms of a budget) is another story altogether etc. The Canterbury, alas, is a perfect example of this. |
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Apr 20, 2010 19:20:50 GMT 12
that looks very much like the Canterbury and well overall by the look of it wuld give us what the endevour has and more  but i think that is on the wish list  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 20, 2010 19:50:34 GMT 12
The Navy always seems to get what it wants though, so probably no worries there. Of course they'll get the version that Treasury have cut back on so much it's unseaworthy.
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Post by beagle on Apr 20, 2010 22:10:41 GMT 12
and here is what hey have chosen  |
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Post by nige on Apr 20, 2010 22:19:46 GMT 12
Heh, heh, mind you that toy boat has a certain look about it eg could it be hand painted, made of metal perhaps and when, dunno, maybe the 60's or 70's?
If so, nah, it might be worth a bit more nowadays eg to a collector, so alas the good folks at Treasury will say it's unaffordable to the Navy and instead suggest a dirt cheap plastic type as found at the $2 shop!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 20, 2010 22:31:42 GMT 12
NZ should get the Chinese to build the new ship, nice and cheaply under the free trade agreement.
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Apr 25, 2010 14:05:12 GMT 12
yea but knowing China they will make it from plastic and then not finish it and then when you put it in the water it will leak and then they won't fix it and the list goes on............... oh and the chinese have been know to want to get every cent they can from you so it might not be that cheap  |
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but i think that is on the wish list 
