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Post by Darren Masters on Oct 23, 2011 16:40:19 GMT 12
Now we're onto the subject of quality of reporting... Two boys are playing with a rugby ball on the street outside Eden Park in Auckland, when one is attacked by a vicious rottweiler. Thinking quickly, the other boy grabbed a stick and wedged it under the dog's collar and twisting it he luckily broke the dog's neck and stopped the attack. A reporter strolling by sees the incident and rushes to interview the boy. "Young Warriors Fan Saves Friend," he starts writing in his notebook. "But I'm not a Warriors fan," the little hero replied. "Sorry, since we’re in Auckland , I assumed you were," and starts again. "All Black Fan Rescues Friend from Horrific Attack," he writes. "I'm not an All Black fan either!" the boy said. "I thought everyone in Auckland was either a Warriors or All Blacks fan...so what team DO you root for?" the reporter asked. "I'm a Roosters and Wallaby fan!" the child beamed. The reporter starts a new sheet in his notebook and writes, "Little Bastard from Australia Kills Beloved Family Pet." Its all how you interpret it! ;D ;D ;D Must admit, I had a good laugh ;D
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Post by Tony on Oct 24, 2011 0:58:06 GMT 12
How the Fire Service and the other eye witness accounts can vary so much is beyond me. I took the first call. My caller gave me the 'facts'. We enter these facts into an event in ICAD (our computer system) The aircraft (a Trislander)crashed. It was taking off and failed to get airborne. The nose wheel collapsed. The aircraft had over-run the strip but was intact. People are still exiting the plane. Caller scared of fire. With my aviation background I knew the aircraft (well) and the strip. In my mind I already knew what the result would be and the photo confirmed what I expected. But we were not to know that at the time. BTW, a second call reported the aircraft crashed on landing and the wheels had collapsed and people were trapped. As I say, I took the call - and went home as it was the end of my shift. ;D
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Post by Tony on Oct 24, 2011 1:01:34 GMT 12
I am genuinely worried about the standard of reporting we are now seeing. No difference from the "spare broom" that was replaced in a Viscount back in the 60's or early 70's.
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Post by baronbeeza on Oct 24, 2011 1:30:34 GMT 12
When a reporter talks about full reverse thrust on a Trislander then something is horribly wrong. Newspapers of 30 years ago were not like this. The Truth reported marginal facts as did many of the UK tabloids.
Now The Press and other 'good' NZ papers cannot be trusted either. Basically what is being placed in front of us is sensationalist crap..... much like the Campbell or Holmes show. If a pilot makes a mistake the media are all over it.... if they lie and report poorly it is somehow acceptable.
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Post by jonesy on Oct 24, 2011 12:07:05 GMT 12
If the issue here is the quality of the reporting, then there is something you can do about it. On the Herald website is the contact email for the reporter involved. If you are genuinely concerned about it, then email him, and cc his editor.If they arent aware of the problem then it will probably happen again. I'd send a email but I'm not qualified enough to pass comments to him, however by the sounds of it theres quite a few here that are.
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Post by baz62 on Oct 24, 2011 13:37:36 GMT 12
If the issue here is the quality of the reporting, then there is something you can do about it. On the Herald website is the contact email for the reporter involved. If you are genuinely concerned about it, then email him, and cc his editor.If they arent aware of the problem then it will probably happen again. I'd send a email but I'm not qualified enough to pass comments to him, however by the sounds of it theres quite a few here that are. I did. Not his editor though couldn't see a link for him. Oi Macfire, some of us were too young to read back in the Viscount days. What was the "spare broom" in the Viscount about?
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Oct 24, 2011 14:06:48 GMT 12
Oi Macfire, some of us were too young to read back in the Viscount days. What was the "spare broom" in the Viscount about? I was young during the Viscount days too, but I did get to fly in one from Wellington to Christchurch in 1968 when I was 14 years old. It was a wee bit noisier than the Fokker Friendship I had just alighted from in Wellington after flying from Napier. And....the seats were three-abreast on one side of the cabin, but only two-abreast on the other. I got served the obligatory NAC cuppa tea & biscuits too, although only got a lolly on the flight from Napier. However, I didn't see even a single broom on the Viscount, let alone any spare brooms. Come to think of it, I cannot recall seeing any brooms on the Friendship either! ;D
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Post by baronbeeza on Oct 24, 2011 15:15:04 GMT 12
Yep, I did write to the reporter, have not heard back yet. It seems like he may have received a few emails, hopefully it may make them think about the effects of what they are reporting. My father even sent me an email questioning what had been written on the web page.
I took the spare broom to be a spar boom, but it was before my time also. Replacing the spare broom would give the aircraft a new lease of life, the reporter would have had to 'correct' the cost of the programme though.
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Post by philip on Oct 25, 2011 9:43:21 GMT 12
Damage can't have been much, I saw it on landing at North Shore on Sunday.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 25, 2011 16:13:17 GMT 12
I emailed NZCity on the same day about their misreporting. "NZCity does aim to respond to all emails" No response yet - are you surprised?
What really does concern me is the possible range of news misinformation. You and I see something about aviation (or some other activity in which you know more than the average Fred) in the news media, and can immediately spot the holes and mistakes in the information given. But then you read something about a field were you know very little, Ballet perhaps, or Coal Mining. How do you know what mistakes are in that information? Presumably they are just as major and widespread. Are you worried? Perhaps you should be.
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Post by eieio on Oct 25, 2011 17:04:08 GMT 12
I was told on Saturday by a younger [13 yr] member of a family walking on the Mount beach how they were approached by a TV crew who asked to interview them and then proceeded to tell them to say what a terrible environmental disaster the oil spill was, it may be ,but is that reporting the news or creating inflamitary headlines ,at least dishonest.
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Post by baz62 on Oct 25, 2011 17:25:17 GMT 12
I emailed NZCity on the same day about their misreporting. "NZCity does aim to respond to all emails" No response yet - are you surprised? What really does concern me is the possible range of news misinformation. You and I see something about aviation (or some other activity in which you know more than the average Fred) in the news media, and can immediately spot the holes and mistakes in the information given. But then you read something about a field were you know very little, Ballet perhaps, or Coal Mining. How do you know what mistakes are in that information? Presumably they are just as major and widespread. Are you worried? Perhaps you should be. I don't believe anything the media tells me so I'm not worried at all.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Oct 25, 2011 19:56:16 GMT 12
What really does concern me is the possible range of news misinformation. Yes! I often think the same - it seems unlikely that aviation is the only subject where they get it so badly wrong. It seems like nowadays journalists have tried to step over the boundary from reporting the news to explaining it when they're not really in a position to do so. On a somewhat different note, I was at Pauanui today - no sign of the incident besides a conspicuous hole in the end fence!
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Post by Tony on Oct 28, 2011 0:22:12 GMT 12
Oi Macfire, some of us were too young to read back in the Viscount days. What was the "spare broom" in the Viscount about? It was an article in the Evening Post I guess in the '60's. I remember cutting it out for my scrap book. Possibly the early '60's? But that seems to be rather early for that kind of maintenance. I remember giggling imagining a lino-floored closet with a brand new nylon broom in it ;D ;D It was a replacement spar boom or course. I only ever had one flight in a Viscount; Christchurch - Wellington in 1973. I loved it. Sitting opposite the rear door in palatial comfort (the seat reminded me of the NZ Railways 1st class seat), large oval window and listening to the rush of air past the not so air-tight door - but it was British after all.
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Post by baronbeeza on Feb 1, 2019 11:32:46 GMT 12
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