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Post by beagle on Mar 14, 2012 12:02:14 GMT 12
With it's retirement, what has happened to the 13 Sioux we had.
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Post by sqwark2k on Mar 14, 2012 12:05:24 GMT 12
I think there was only 5 maximum left when phased out. 1 will defo go to Wigram, I've heard MOTAT will get 1 as well along with a Macchi.... and digging deep into my memory I think Historic Flight might get one with a UH-1H
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Post by beagle on Mar 14, 2012 12:15:42 GMT 12
I am pretty sure the historic flight have got one already as they will be displaying it at the 75 airshow, or the program shows. I remeber when I was at Woodbourne and Sgt Oakes built up one at the school from quite a few different crashed ones.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 14, 2012 13:48:44 GMT 12
Beagle, I think that one built from parts is the one already at Wigram.
The others would make good hacks for the squadrons/bases, but I don't think the RNZAF has hacks anymore.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 14, 2012 14:03:42 GMT 12
There isn't a Sioux at Wigram yet.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 14, 2012 14:45:16 GMT 12
OK, my mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 15:03:31 GMT 12
I look forward to seeing the RNZAFHF Sioux later this month. It wasn't until the last Ohakea show that I got to see the type in action. I was so pleased, it was a beautiful display.
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Post by beagle on Mar 14, 2012 16:31:37 GMT 12
I have seen them display 2 at once at a show before, like a dancing routine.
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Post by beagle on Mar 14, 2012 16:33:25 GMT 12
According to the RNZAF Web site
NZ3711 crashed 15 November 1971 NZ3707 crashed 02 April 1974 NZ3703 crashed 30 June 1977 NZ3701 crashed 19 January 1979 NZ3709 crashed 11 November 1983 NZ3710 crashed 16 July 1985 NZ3704 crashed 16 January 1987
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 17:31:19 GMT 12
That was what I saw Beags, they called the "team" Sioux Blue. My friend rolled his eyes when "Suicide is Painless" played over the PA during the handling routine, but I thought it a nice touch.
I love the idea of Sergeant Oakes' "bitser", salvaging lost/damaged examples and resurrecting them for future generations to enjoy.
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Post by Deane B on Mar 16, 2012 19:43:51 GMT 12
Reminds me of a classic story - 1986 Basic Engineering. Our Instructor Rob "Bubbles" Bailey was hammering home to us how aeronautical engineering was precise engineering with no room for error, mistakes or gash behaviour. A few minutes later during out hangar tour came several loud expletives "get in there you mother #$$%% thing" followed by some loud banging - "Ocker" Oakes was installing the tailboom bolts to the Sioux !!! It was great to have at the school at the time and I remember them engine running it too. Not sure the rumours about there being a few inches of air under the skids during one of them is true though! Unfortunately the question of unknown component lives put and end to engine running. From memory the Sioux was built primarily from 03, 04 and 07? I know it has different "tail"numbers on the bubble and each side of the tail fin which gives it away.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Mar 16, 2012 20:28:11 GMT 12
If that is Sioux INST221 you're talking about, it is largely NZ3707 rebuilt with parts of NZ3711 as training airframe for 4TTS Woodbourne.
Does anybody have a reasonable photo of NZ3711 to share?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 16, 2012 20:30:04 GMT 12
That's a classic Basic Engineering story!!
I used to like watching the Sioux's flying at Wigram, they were neat little aircraft. My one and only ride in one was unconventional, lying in the stretcher with the pilots trying to shake me out. Great fun.
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Post by shorty on Mar 17, 2012 20:34:35 GMT 12
My photos and library are currently spread between here in Cheviot and my new house on the Otago Peninsula but I do have this shot of the demise of NZ3711 at Waiouru I should have more later
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Post by beagle on Mar 18, 2012 20:37:13 GMT 12
After that there was a MOD to get rid of the ashtray.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 18, 2012 21:40:41 GMT 12
;D at Beagle
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Post by beagle on Mar 19, 2012 19:16:41 GMT 12
Reminds me of a classic story - 1986 Basic Engineering. Our Instructor Rob "Bubbles" Bailey was hammering home to us how aeronautical engineering was precise engineering with no room for error, mistakes or gash behaviour. A few minutes later during out hangar tour came several loud expletives "get in there you mother #$$%% thing" followed by some loud banging - "Ocker" Oakes was installing the tailboom bolts to the Sioux !!! . Sgt David " Ocker" Oakes flatted with me at the infamous "Pub Pet Palace " near Woodbourne. If anyone has been there, you will know why it was called Pub Pet Palace, and what activities were often undertaken there.
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Post by Deane B on Mar 20, 2012 20:47:12 GMT 12
After that there was a MOD to get rid of the ashtray. LOL !!! Was this the one that sucked up a bit of plywood or something lying on the ground, which then caused the crash and fire?
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Post by shorty on Mar 20, 2012 20:56:56 GMT 12
Nah, rotors hit the hangar while doing a hover taxy at Waioru
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Post by beagle on Mar 20, 2012 22:02:42 GMT 12
i was about to say tarpaulin but that was the wasp at Taupo
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