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Post by steve on Jun 21, 2006 1:55:25 GMT 12
I get the impression that the RNZAF has become more conservative than the "senior" service and well behind the army in transforming the uniform code of the service to a more modern New Zealand professional look in presentation and insignia.
For example warrant officer rank in the army changed to our own coat of arms some years ago...although i have to say the flight crew outfits look really smart....i have still got this impression of uniforms based on school boy outfits....ie shorts ...long socks etc...are those side caps still worn?...what casual headgear if any is worn for ground staff? How to our RNZAF uniforms compare in quality and differences to the AUS and Brits?
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Post by phil on Jun 21, 2006 12:47:48 GMT 12
Flight crew outfits look really sharp?? Baggy green nomex overalls? Sorry you've lost me there.
We still wear FS caps and we now have baseball caps to wear with our DPMs or overalls. We do still have shorts, but so do the navy, and at least ours aren't white.
The aussies have a uniform much the same as our blues, but there's is more of a dress uniform. The aussies have a dark blue working uniform that has no equivelent in the rnzaf.
The Aussies DPCUs look even more like pyjamas than our DPMs and their jelly bean pattern is not very appealing!
The americans have so many uniforms I've never really kept track of them.
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Post by Bruce on Jun 21, 2006 13:39:51 GMT 12
I reckon the way to encourage new recruits will be to change the uniform. how about those special jeans where the "waistband" is halfway to the knees, boxer shorts with little aeroplanes on them above this, but still allowing a tasteful amount of "tradesmans cleaveage" to be visible. This would be accompanied by a uniform Black tee shirt and dark grey or black hooded sweatshirt. Headwear would be the special reversed baseball cap for dress occasions or the SD Black Beanie. Boots would be whitish with optional laces. Rank insignia would be worn as the appropriate number of rings in the left nostril. The new recruits can then practice "square ambling" and the new single fingered salute. Parades can be accompanied by the music of great military composers such as "snoop dog".....  |
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Post by phil on Jun 21, 2006 14:46:06 GMT 12
the 'new' single fingered salute?
Is that different from the one in use a the moment...?
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Post by corsair67 on Jun 21, 2006 14:50:52 GMT 12
Yep, but Auscam is the most effective camo for the sort of countryside you'll find in most parts of Australia.
Bruce, any new uniform would definitely need a pocket for the obligatory iPod then?
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Post by Bruce on Jun 21, 2006 15:37:07 GMT 12
Yeah - the iPods in used instead of Steyrs... snoop dog and Eminem played loudly has more effect. The spin off is that the CT4s will soon have Big Bore exhausts and lowered undercarriage legs! The paint finishes should be pretty good though....
Australia is covered in Green Jellybeans?
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Post by phil on Jun 21, 2006 17:07:21 GMT 12
I didn't say it wasn't effective, just not appealing!
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Post by corsair67 on Jun 21, 2006 17:58:50 GMT 12
Bruce, a lowered CT-4 - that's fully sick man!  Australia isn't just covered in green jellybeans, but yellow and brown ones too! ;D |
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Post by meo4 on May 7, 2015 20:32:38 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 20:41:00 GMT 12
Haven't heard of us getting new head dress, it may just be because its a tri service thing. To unify the 3 services in this specific role, perhaps??
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Post by isc on May 7, 2015 21:15:05 GMT 12
Either Jandals, or gumboots, they could be a nice shade of blue. isc
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Post by phil on May 9, 2015 16:20:23 GMT 12
The blue beret is only for NZDF Police. The three service's police are now combined into a tri-service unit. Not sure what they actually do in the air force though.
The RNZAF is currently trialling a working dress uniform similar in concept to the Navy GWD uniform. 500 sets have been issued to personnel for the trial.
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 9, 2015 23:02:08 GMT 12
Not sure what they actually do in the air force though. Feed the dogs? In the good old days working dress was blue Stubbies and blue Jockey T-shirt, and blue overalls for the big jobs. |
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Post by phil82 on May 10, 2015 3:11:10 GMT 12
I reckon the way to encourage new recruits will be to change the uniform. how about those special jeans where the "waistband" is halfway to the knees, boxer shorts with little aeroplanes on them above this, but still allowing a tasteful amount of "tradesmans cleaveage" to be visible. This would be accompanied by a uniform Black tee shirt and dark grey or black hooded sweatshirt. Headwear would be the special reversed baseball cap for dress occasions or the SD Black Beanie. Boots would be whitish with optional laces. Rank insignia would be worn as the appropriate number of rings in the left nostril. The new recruits can then practice "square ambling" and the new single fingered salute. Parades can be accompanied by the music of great military composers such as "snoop dog"..... Who was it said that"The wearing of Baseball caps back to front is the international sign of idiocy?" |
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Post by phil82 on May 10, 2015 3:14:44 GMT 12
The blue beret is only for NZDF Police. The three service's police are now combined into a tri-service unit. Not sure what they actually do in the air force though. They are trained elephant trackers! |
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Post by camtech on May 11, 2015 20:45:56 GMT 12
They must be good elephant trackers - they appear to have found them all and disposed of them all!
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Post by pioneer on May 22, 2015 13:01:45 GMT 12
I do find the reference to the RNZN as the senior service rather tiring as well as being incorrect. Of the 3 services the RNZN is the youngest coming into being in Oct 1941.
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 22, 2015 22:17:17 GMT 12
I totally agree there Paul.
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Post by 11SQNLDR on May 22, 2015 23:08:08 GMT 12
I do find the reference to the RNZN as the senior service rather tiring as well as being incorrect. Of the 3 services the RNZN is the youngest coming into being in Oct 1941. Like it or not it is a standard practice or tradition across the Commonwealth - the Navy is known as the Senior service within the NZDF and that's a fact. |
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Post by phil on May 23, 2015 15:32:13 GMT 12
I do find the reference to the RNZN as the senior service rather tiring as well as being incorrect. Of the 3 services the RNZN is the youngest coming into being in Oct 1941. But there's no telling the Navy that! They seem to think that just because there was another navy, on the other side of the world somewhere, that offsets the fact they've been around some four years less than the RNZAF. |
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