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Post by curtiss on Sept 30, 2010 17:22:05 GMT 12
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Post by curtiss on Sept 30, 2010 17:28:18 GMT 12
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Post by curtiss on Sept 30, 2010 17:28:56 GMT 12
I give up......
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Post by skyhawkdon on Sept 30, 2010 18:25:42 GMT 12
Please don't! This thread is brilliant (but sad!).
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 30, 2010 18:55:31 GMT 12
Moderator's Note
To all our recent members - please read the Forum Rules. Photos of John Smith's aircraft ollection are not allowed on the site. This regretably is at his request, which he makes to everyone whom he allows to photograph his aircraft, that the photos are not published. We have to respect this. Sorry folks.er, keep it coming please.
Great thread otherwise howevever, keep it coming please!!
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rod
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Post by rod on Sept 30, 2010 18:57:48 GMT 12
yes it is a great thread, are we sure the info is correct tho?
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rod
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Post by rod on Sept 30, 2010 19:07:08 GMT 12
G,day, I am a son of A Elliott,but not the author of the article referred to previously. I can confirm that one engine was set up and run in a backyard in Captain Springs Road, Te Papapa,Onehunga,the other Derwent was totally dismantled.NZ6001 was fired up at 1TTs Hobsonville and delivered personally to my father byWing Commander McKay across the airfield to "Rotten Row" where it was dismantled.I still have a few bits, ie Altimetre,Tacho etc.This was the last a/c Dad cut up,previous a/c were 5 Mosquitoes at Milson originally destined for Rausch Aviation,USA, but blocked after 1 had flown away,these were fueled up ready to go.He also bought the remains off other Mossies while down there.Previously, as a family 2 Oxfords were broken up at Hobsonville and a Consul/Oxford at Whenuapai,a Harvard at Ohakea.Along the way there several RR & Packard Merlins, Pratt & Whitney 14 & 18 cylinder radials, also Bristol Pegasus and Cheeta X radials. Hope this lays to rest the rumours
this is quoted from the meteor thread, which was posted by my Dad,
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Post by fwx on Sept 30, 2010 19:14:12 GMT 12
Great photos, beautiful planes - thanks curtiss
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Post by fwx on Sept 30, 2010 19:19:49 GMT 12
rod, the various trucks in the photos are marked Marlborough Transport, Horrell & Co. Engineers, and Mid-Canterbury Transport, so would seem to fit curtiss's story
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rod
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Post by rod on Sept 30, 2010 19:42:16 GMT 12
yes, that is why i asked as there is reference to the above quote which appears not to add up as being the same story
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Post by rone on Sept 30, 2010 21:00:07 GMT 12
with reference to reply 29 (rod),the Mossies destined for the USA were originally bought by Aircraft Supplies Ltd P/N.They were then bought from the receivers of A/Supplies by my father, Mr A Elliott.There were 6 aircraft originally,1 flew away before the govt.stopped the deal.The 1 that went eventually ended up in Kermit Weeks museum but I believe was destroyed in the hangar fire a few years back.The remaining 5 to the best of my knowledge never had any connection to Rolfe Industries,and certainly none with Horrells who broke up a/c at Woodbourne.I and my brother assisted our father break up these Mossies,travelling to and from Onehunga to Palmerston North on the fuel in tanks while it lasted.Now the bit for all you recognition experts; these 5 Mossies were put on the civil register prior to hopefully leaving NZ.I have only one photo (taken with a box brownie) of 1 , ZK-BCW, all ref. to RNZAF has been painted out.The remaining Reg No`s are obscured.Some one here should be able to find that Reg on file, finding the other 5 should be easy, then the RNZAF serials can be traced
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 30, 2010 21:11:15 GMT 12
Kermit Weeks' Mosquito has nothing to do with NZ, it came from Britain and is the ex-Strathallan collection machine. It is currently in a museum safe and sound, but he recently announced he plans to return it to the air. He never had a hangar fire either (so far as I know). He had a hangar collapse in the hurricane that struck his airport but the Mosquito was not based there at that time.
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Post by hairy on Sept 30, 2010 21:11:32 GMT 12
75 Squadron NZ2308 YC-Z demonstrating one engine fly past This is the Mosquito Glynn Powell is restoring, he would probably love a copy of the photo as he does not have too many of NZ2308 in service. The photo was very possibly taken at the Airforce Day Display at Whenuapai on 16-09-50 as I have a number of Leo White negatives that are very similar of NZ2308 doing a single engine display on that day.
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Post by oggie2620 on Sept 30, 2010 21:12:15 GMT 12
Great photos but... this is like looking at a horror story I would agree with that..... Such a shame but then the same happened in England with the Wellies, Hallies, Lancs and Stirlings... They dont think of the future do they! Dee
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Post by hairy on Sept 30, 2010 21:16:27 GMT 12
This one is also still with us under restoration at Ferrymead.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 30, 2010 21:17:05 GMT 12
NZ2381 = ZK-BCT NZ2383 = ZK-BCU NZ2384 = ZK-BCV NZ2385 = ZK-BCW NZ2386 = ZK-BCX NZ2387 = ZK-BCY
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Post by rone on Sept 30, 2010 21:22:29 GMT 12
Re reply 31,the reference I made regarding Kermit Weeks was from an article I read in Wings some time back, so maybe they were wrong also,the rest of what I wrote is verifyable
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 30, 2010 21:41:20 GMT 12
For the record, when NZ2384 went to the USA it went into the ownership of Jim Merizan. It was registered as N9909F and flew for a bit but was deregistered in 1970. In the 1980's he traded it to the Swedish Air Force Museum. It had nothing to do with Kermit Weeks apparently.
Kermit does however own an ex-RNZAF Sunderland, Mustang and Tempest.
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Post by pjw4118 on Oct 1, 2010 16:13:23 GMT 12
Hairy, re NZ 2308, I will get a copy of that photo to Glyn, the print I have has Weekly News stamped on the back , maybe sold by Leo White. Dave , sorry about the John Smith picture, wasnt aware of this when I visited in the 1990s.I will consign the rest back into the file.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 1, 2010 16:39:24 GMT 12
Thanks Peter. Yes, it's a pity but I feel we should honour his wishes, he takes a lot of time to show enthusiasts his private collection and the no publication of photos seems to be his only wish in return. Hopefully one day the Mosquito will go on a more public display where photos will be no issue.
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