You've done it now Jim! ;D Nice to have a family member find more about their father's service, yet another great thing about your site Dave, there is so much on here. Have you considered advertising the site in magazines like Aeroplane, Classic Wings etc? Might pick up some interesting people, put a few forum meet photos so they can see what we get up to as well.
Edit - I have moved the Hawker Hind discussion out of the Buried Mil Hinds thread to here, Carry on, Admin
And there was me thinking they might be Hawker Hinds (on reading the Thread title!) Remember, the RNZAF shipped four superfluous Hinds to the RAAF in about April 1942, at request of RAAF, presumably as a spares source for the surviving Audax's on that side of the Tasman. David D
versuch, Yes, the RAAF did operate Demons (which were supposed to be 2-seat fighters) rather than Audax's (my bad for not checking!), but there is no doubt that the RAAF requested that, if we had any Hinds which could be spared, could we ship them over; we offered four, which we then shipped. They were ferried down to Wigram from Ohakea, and were shipped out through Lyttelton; they were NZ1511, 1521, 1522, and 1538, and all shipped "April 1942", although exact dates, ship name (or names) and port of destination unknown. I actually talked to one of the pilots who ferried down one of the Hinds, he had recently graduated from his "Wings" course, and had never flown a Hind before. Official fate for these four aircraft was that they were supplied to RAAF "for spares". David D
Versuch, My information on this transfer is extremely sketchy, practically non-existent, although am not aware of any "exchange" material received by RNZAF for these four aircraft. It is possible that these four Hinds were some of our worst examples (that is, not likely to be suitable for flying operations without a major overhaul), but probably semi-complete and with most of their original equipment still installed. It is also possible that we also supplied a proportion of our own general spares for this aircraft type that were good for any generic Hind/Demon/Audax type (and regularly damaged and/or worn out in service), such as undercarriage/brake parts, propellers, ailerons, rudders, struts, spare engines. The RNZAF did receive twenty brand new Tiger Moths diverted from RAAF orders in 1942 (which were of great assistance at this time), and also about 84 sets of beam-gun mountings suitable for our Hudson fleet in late 1942 (about September), just in time to equip these aircraft prior to be their being despatched to Espiritu Santo and Guadalcanal. David D
davidd, your information is good! I have found evidence in the Australian Archive, in the RAAF Movements and Shipping Office Sydney file, as follows
27/4/42 Waipori ex New Zealand.Four Hinds aircraft discharged and transfered to No 9 Wharf pending disposal.
So they DID arrive, but after checking through the various Aircraft Depot,RSU etc files , there is no trace. But...No.1 AD Laverton is in the archive but not open (Yet) it can be for a mere $230+ dollars . So we will have to wait....... but I suspect that they were sent by sea,rail or road to Melbourne.
I have also included a page from 1 SFTS Point Cook showing how bad Demon serviceability was, being outshone by the ageing Wapiti !
The Hudson turrets were a problem as there are numerous photos of RAAF Hudsons with turret cavities faired over, awaiting conversion. Cheers Mike