Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 2, 2011 15:51:28 GMT 12
These may not be much help really but I took these in 2006 at the RNZAF Musuem workshops and they show the underside of their Oxford centre section. You can see a little of the piping, etc in there but I don't know how much more went in after this.
Thanks Dave. That's a huge help. I'm planning on building an Oxbox in the markings of 4 FTS at Habbaniyah in May 1941. They carried 8x20lb bombs into battle against the Iraqi rebellion. That first pic of yours certainly helps.
I've been interested in the 4 FTS story ever since reading "Hidden Victory" by Tony Dudgeon many moons ago. I know exactly which aircraft I want to model but it needs the Light Series Carriers (finding those in 1/48 scale is another challenge), the 20lb bombs (although I can live without those) and, most importantly, some detailed pics of the bomb bay where the LSCs were fitted.
Thanks again for your pic, Dave. Hopefully someone from the Christchurch area can help out - I'd need a really, REALLY long telefoto lens to get any pics where I live!
According to David Duxbury's notes in this Air Britain book 1 (GR) Squadron, Whenuapai Oxfords allocated from October 1940 to August 1943. 2 (GR) Squadron, Nelson Hill until May 1943, then Ohakea. Oxfords allocated from September 1941 to July 1943; 3 (GR) Squadron , Whenuapai, Oxfords allocated from June 1942 to September 1942. No. 4 and 5 (GR) Squadrons are not listed as having Oxfords allocated as you say because possibly they were based in Fiji. No.6 (GR) Squadron also is not listed as having Oxfords allocated. No.7 (GR) Squadron Waipapakauri Oxfords were allocated from June 1942 to July 1943. No.8 (GR) Squadron Gisborne Oxfords allocated from September 1942. Re-designated 30 (Torpedo Squadron) May 28, 1943. The squadron was allocated 4 Oxfords such as NZ272, NZ1241, NZ1242, NZ1264.
On the individual aircraft histories David does list some history which (GR) squadrons the Oxfords saw service.
The Special Hobby 1/48 Oxford Mark I/II(Commonwealth Service) kits arrived today - first glance the kit looks excellent with decals depicting NZ1376 (Red/Yellow striped) and NZ1222/102 Dark Green/Brown, yellow along fuselage sides with Sky lower surfaces, plus an Aussie and Canadian Oxford. All are Mark I's depicted without the turret. The kit does include the turret for representing a Mark II.
Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 6, 2011 22:36:56 GMT 12
No. 10 (GR) Squadron was the predecessor to No. 1 OTU, it was an "operational training squadron" so it flew regular operations but trained new crews - much like the School of General Reconnaissance did.
It did fly Oxfords, several of them. They also got Hudsons before the name changed, and the OTU retained the Oxfords along with its Hudsons. Later the OTU also got Venturas.
Dave H, I may have given you insufficient information in the past, but the full name of No. 10 Squadron (at Levin) was in fact No. 10 BOTS (for Bomber Operational Training Squadron), and NOT 10 (GR) Sqdn, much the same as there was also a No. 11 FOTS (Fighter Operational Training Squadron) located at Ohakea from March to about July 1942 when it assumed its definitive title of No. 2 Fighter OTU, with a lot of Harvards and a few Kittyhawks. David D
Just to confuse the situation even more, there was a previous No. 10 Squadron in the RNZAF, although it only existed for brief time; this was the No. 10 Squadron, a FAFAI unit, which in its normal business suit was called the School of General Reconnaissance located at Omaka, near Blenheim, and equipped with about a dozen Vincents (and the odd Vildebeest). It came into being (on paper) in mid-January 1942 as detailed in a secret memorandum penned by the CAS of the day, Air Commodore R V Goddard, RAF, on 17th January 1942. Its personnel roll (HQ, Flying, Technical personnel) was prepared on 29/1/42 (Air File 127/10/2). In July 1942 it was redesignated as No. 23 Squadron (still for FAFAI purposes). As you can see, some of these FAFAI squadrons tended to duplicate numbers used by "Regular" squadrons, so they renumbered these with higher numbers so as to avoid confusion in a real emergency. Of course some of the revised (higher) numbefrs were late also overtaken by events, but by this time the FAFAI force had been disbanded or at least toned down somewhat.
Seeing as many forum members will be up close and personal with the Subritzky example in a little under a week, would any Christchurch-based members be able to show us what the RNZAF Museum's Consul looks like at present?
Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 30, 2013 21:18:30 GMT 12
Something I'd never picked up on before but looking through this thread again at what is left of the photos (it's so sad when people delete their photo contributions to threads like this!) it seems most of the Oxfords never wore fin flashes. Only Don's one and the ones in post-WWII storage from Bob Lawn's photo seem to wear them. This seems rather strange.
Agree Dave. Appears very few Oxfords wore fin flashes during war service. Going through my photos, I note only a very small no with fin flashes. It appears that many were added after war's end. Wonder why?
Scoop Teresa's workmate spied a certain twin engined aircraft parked outside 2 Hangar at Wigram. "Your husband's into planes. What's that?" he asks Teresa handing her binoculars. Sadly Teresa had to use her mobile phone's camera hence the tiny shot but I think we all know what's taking in the sunshine. First time since what? 1945?
The Auster should be recognised for what it is: a gentleman's aerial touring carriage and a nice aeroplane.