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Post by pjw4118 on Mar 28, 2012 12:15:22 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2012 22:37:13 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Mar 29, 2012 19:03:33 GMT 12
Thanks for those interior and PI photos there Peter. The photo of AMA and the boat has been posted somewhere her before, I think.
Dave, a most interesting think piece there by Leo White. I see the article is dated May 1949 and refers to AMA being at Mission Bay. That would have been written about a year after its move to that location. Would you have the issues to search through for mid-to-late 1950 and see if there is any mention of its destruction? The actual date of scrapping of AMA is one of the last pieces of the puzzle that we need.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 29, 2012 23:39:37 GMT 12
Sadly no Peter. I only found this one issue of Whites Magazine in a second hand bookshop In Christcurch in 2006, and I haven'y any others I don't think.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 3, 2012 20:46:03 GMT 12
At that concludes my epistle on the Short civilian boats.
I'd like to thank Marcus, Don Noble, Peter Layne and a few others for their input into this work.
Feel free to add more if you have it.
I'm working on a similar thread for the RNZAF Sunderlands but that's a bit stalled while I wait for a few other photos to come in (kb are you out there?).
In the meantime I have been given access to an applebox of paper from CAA and RNZAF archives that relate to NZ flying boat use. If I find anything relevant and new in that, I'll post it here.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2012 1:03:32 GMT 12
Thanks for a super thread Peter!
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Post by flyjoe180 on Apr 4, 2012 11:38:42 GMT 12
Thanks Peter for your thread and informative commentary. It's great you are able to share this information here with us all.
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Post by pjw4118 on Apr 13, 2012 10:13:26 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 13, 2012 10:20:15 GMT 12
Marvelous, thank you. Particularly interesting is the aerial view of Hobsonville as it was, with Whenuapai visible in the background. Note the lack of housing in the surrounding landscape, even on Herald Island.
As an aside, there is a very interesting supplement in today's New Zealand Herald promoting subdivision housing at Hobsonville Point. Includes an 'artists impression' of the renovation of the Hobsonville hard. Looks like the old main hangar seems to be destined for renovation and reuse rather than being demolished. Grab a copy if you can, its worth it.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 13, 2012 11:01:12 GMT 12
ZK-AMQ on take-off at Fiji. Probably originally a TEAL publicity photograph Are you sure that is AMQ and not AMO? It is fitted with the large propellor spinners as fitted to the Solent Mk.4 — were they ever fitted to TEAL's sole Solent Mk.3? Also, the photo of AMQ being cut-up shows it in the earlier Solent livery, whereas the Solent in that photo is wearing the later livery as worn by AMO in the later years on the Coral Route, and currently at MOTAT. Also the same livery worn by TEAL's DC-6s before they were repainted in the livery worn by the L.188 Electras.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Nov 28, 2012 13:07:53 GMT 12
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jun 26, 2013 19:38:16 GMT 12
An interesting gallery of Short flying-boat photographs can be found on the National Library website HERE. Clicking on any individual thumbnail will open the image for viewing, along with more info about it.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 7, 2013 18:20:18 GMT 12
WOW....the Short S.45A Solent Mk.3 flying-boat S-1296 (formerly BOAC's G-AKNP "City of Cardiff") at Oakland, California is looking in really great condition. Check it out HERE and HERE.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 7, 2013 22:13:24 GMT 12
Cool, eh.
Not bad for a Solent that's been sitting outside for all these years.
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Post by baz62 on Sept 7, 2013 22:23:52 GMT 12
WOW....the Short S.45A Solent Mk.3 flying-boat S-1296 (formerly BOAC's G-AKNP "City of Cardiff") at Oakland, California is looking in really great condition. Check it out HERE and HERE. Shorty is this the one you got Bristol Hercules engines for?
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Post by shorty on Sept 8, 2013 7:29:06 GMT 12
Yep, I was involved with it in the mid 80's when it was parked up at Richmond (on S.F.Bay) before moving to the Museum. It's ex Howard Hughes and appeared in Raiders of the Lost Ark
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Post by planecrazy on Jan 29, 2014 21:56:37 GMT 12
Been meaning to do this for some time, hope no one minds some Australian Boats hi-jacking this thread. Thought I would add some of the Shorts Boats that have served Lord Howe Island. The first airline Trans Oceanic Airways used converted ex RAAF Sunderlands they operated from 1947 to 1953.
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Post by planecrazy on Jan 29, 2014 22:16:22 GMT 12
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Post by planecrazy on Jan 30, 2014 21:40:05 GMT 12
Ansett Flying Boat Services had around ten years of trouble free service to and from Lord Howe Island then in 1963 VH-BRE "Pacific Cheiftain" (former ZK-AMD "Australia") was washed ashore in a storm. The forecast was for further bad weather, there was concern that the in-coming tide would cause further damage. A decision was made to get the her back into the water without a port float, note the sand bags above the starboard float! Sadly the weight of the sand bags along with the swell caused the starboard float to give way and the wing fell down into the rocks and she was damaged beyond repair. After all usable parts where removed the hull was taken to sea and scuttled. The service needed two machines to survive, by this stage flying boats had become few and far between, Lord Howe Island had become the last place where there was a requirement for an aeroplane to fly on and off water! An exhaustive search began for a replacement machine, luckerly one was found not too far away. The RNZAF had retired there Sunderlands in 1959 NZ 4108 was selected and ferried across the Tasaman to get a new lease of life being converted to a civil airliner. She can be seen below on her beaching gear on the hardstand at Rose Bay, Sydney Harbour, in the second pic if you look closely you can see the rego VH-BRF, alongside the faint RNZAF roundels. VH-BRF was christened "Islander" in Ansetts care and flew to and from the island with passengers bags and freight for eleven years, note the bolbous Sunderland like nose.
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Post by planecrazy on Mar 19, 2014 21:29:06 GMT 12
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