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Post by Kereru on Mar 14, 2013 10:36:23 GMT 12
Some more pics as A39-002 taxis for take off on 23L for Christchurch.   Drop a bit of fuel out the back and start the APU and just maybe it could do a dump and burn like the F-111 could? ;D  Cheers |
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Post by beagle on Mar 14, 2013 14:50:53 GMT 12
Been sitting at CHC from 1200 till 2.15, nothing like that came in here
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 14, 2013 15:15:39 GMT 12
Must have been off quick, Flight radar was showing it on the ground there about 11am.
Sent via Proboards Android App
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Post by Ykato on Mar 14, 2013 16:02:27 GMT 12
Must have been off quick, Flight radar was showing it on the ground there about 11am. Sent via Proboards Android App Fltr24 showed it tracking past canberra approx 2.30pm went via akl - chch - hobart etc. |
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Post by beagle on Mar 14, 2013 20:59:03 GMT 12
Bugger, if I had read the threads earlier I would Have left home earlier and caught it.
So yes finally, last day of my 3 weeks off and I get to have my few hours at the airport.
Got quite warm just after lunch and both of us ended up asleep in the fold down seating in the back of the van with side door open with a wee breeze.
Still took over 100 shots. will have to go through them tomorrow.
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Post by Calum on Mar 14, 2013 22:15:15 GMT 12
I'd hate to AAR a E-3/ C-17 etc via a probe and drogue. The Boom is certainly better in that application
The RAAF have the Wedgetail, C-130J (?) and C-17 with a AAR recetpacle
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Post by richard1098 on Mar 15, 2013 7:31:16 GMT 12
KC-30As have a receptacle as well.
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Post by ngatimozart on Mar 15, 2013 13:25:23 GMT 12
According to Flight Global the P8s have the same AAR refueling system developed for the RAAF Wedgetails. Actually not bad article on P8 although written in 2010. |
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Post by beagle on Mar 15, 2013 15:54:05 GMT 12
You would think so being very similar in construction
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Post by corsair67 on Mar 16, 2013 11:51:02 GMT 12
Looks like they were just testing something different that the RAAF hasn't ordered with theirs. Main thing is no one was hurt. Well that is reassuring - they now have two different issues to deal with that cause the booms to depart controlled operation and shear off the aircraft?  |
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Post by mcmaster on Mar 16, 2013 16:59:56 GMT 12
Surprised they don't use the local military field Whenuapai? i.e. Not sure how it works but assume they'd pay landing fees at Auckland Int Airport vs free at the RNZAF field  . Comparing to KSA very rare to see Military a/c there, they head instead to Richmond. Doesn't seem it was on the ground long enough to be tagged if that was in the back of their minds. |
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Post by beagle on Mar 16, 2013 17:57:50 GMT 12
I would surmise it might have something to do with take off weights etc. Safety margins.
whats the max weight landing at WP.
I am sure they have had C5's in there but they must have landed and left with minimal fuel.
Has there ever been a B747 land at WP.
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Post by ngatimozart on Mar 16, 2013 18:39:36 GMT 12
You would think so being very similar in construction Not so much that but USN has used hose & drogue and USAF boom and flush receptacle so I was interested to see what they would do with P8 as it's a USN aircraft. Service politics and all that. |
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Post by beagle on Mar 16, 2013 19:28:06 GMT 12
Since it worked ok with the E7, why not keep it tried and true
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Post by Kereru on Mar 16, 2013 20:04:59 GMT 12
Surprised they don't use the local military field Whenuapai? i.e. Not sure how it works but assume they'd pay landing fees at Auckland Int Airport vs free at the RNZAF field . Comparing to KSA very rare to see Military a/c there, they head instead to Richmond. Doesn't seem it was on the ground long enough to be tagged if that was in the back of their minds. May have something to do with weights and fuel storage at WPE? The C-17's that I have followed at WPE always come to Auckland to top up there tanks? Auckland has a pipeline to Marsden Point does WPE? Cheers |
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 16, 2013 20:21:33 GMT 12
Also runway length (which feeds into max weight of course).
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Post by gebbw on Mar 20, 2013 18:36:30 GMT 12
It will be great to see these birds here in NZ at future RNZAF airshow! Here's hoping!
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Post by Mick F on Mar 20, 2013 23:59:35 GMT 12
I'd hate to AAR a E-3/ C-17 etc via a probe and drogue. The Boom is certainly better in that application The RAAF have the Wedgetail, C-130J (?) and C-17 with a AAR recetpacle Our C130J's do not have the capability installed (probe setup) however, the provisions are there if we want to install them. Not sure if all frames have it, but the area is situated on the upper left side behind the brow windows. All piping and mounting points are in place. It was the good old 'fitted for, not with' option. Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards |
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Post by richard1098 on Mar 21, 2013 18:26:21 GMT 12
I'd hate to AAR a E-3/ C-17 etc via a probe and drogue. The Boom is certainly better in that application The RAAF have the Wedgetail, C-130J (?) and C-17 with a AAR recetpacle Our C130J's do not have the capability installed (probe setup) however, the provisions are there if we want to install them. Not sure if all frames have it, but the area is situated on the upper left side behind the brow windows. All piping and mounting points are in place. It was the good old 'fitted for, not with' option. Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards Seems that air-to air refuelling equipment, of whatever type, has only been fitted on the production line since 2009. www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/lockheed-starts-building-new-version-of-the-c-130j-333174/Makes sense, adding receptacles to the Wedgetail and KC-30 as a post production modification didn't seem problematic, and those airframes were never designed with AAR in mind. |
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Post by Mick F on Mar 21, 2013 20:13:00 GMT 12
Not all A/C off the line have the receptacle fitted, only the spec ops HC/MC130J variants. Confirmed today that all Aus J's have the AAR provisions, and we never purchased not even one probe kit. Still an option, and would not be that hard to install. Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards |
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. Comparing to KSA very rare to see Military a/c there, they head instead to Richmond. Doesn't seem it was on the ground long enough to be tagged if that was in the back of their minds.