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Post by beagle on Apr 11, 2013 17:10:02 GMT 12
The guys at work were asking me how much our ex iroquois will be going for once they start to sell them. Whats the guts there. Manufactured in the USA, do they still need approval of buyers etc like the A4's. If one was to go on sale to any kiwi bloke, what sort of price would he be looking at. 1/4 million, 1/2 million way less  |
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 11, 2013 17:21:20 GMT 12
They have the same end user issues as the Skyhawks so will be going straight to Museums I'm picking.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 11, 2013 19:17:15 GMT 12
What happened to the Australian military's UH-1's when they were retired? Did any get allowed to be sold for continued usage?
I understand that Iroquois are a bit like DHC Beavers, worth more now to buy than when they were first built because they're so good at the work and highly sought after despite their age. Ones in as good a condition as ours would fetch good money I'd think.
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Post by Ykato on Apr 11, 2013 19:22:22 GMT 12
What happened to the Australian military's UH-1's when they were retired? Did any get allowed to be sold for continued usage? I understand that Iroquois are a bit like DHC Beavers, worth more now to buy than when they were first built because they're so good at the work and highly sought after despite their age. Ones in as good a condition as ours would fetch good money I'd think. Army Iroquois choppers become national treasures An Army squadron of 11 Iroquois helicopters will be transformed into local tourist attractions around Australia. They'll be on display in Townsville and eight other communities. Serving the nation since 1962, the UH-1H or "Huey", as they are affectionately known, first flew with the Australian Defence Force (ADF) in Malaysia. However it was their use in the Vietnam War that gave them the iconic status they have today with their familiar silhouette and rotor sound. "Townsville and the other locations selected have had an association with the Iroquois helicopter for a very long time. It's only fitting then that these helicopters come to rest among these communities," Minister for Defence Materiel and Science Greg Combet said. "One Iroquois helicopter will be kept for permanent display outside Townsville's RAAF Base, where we expect it to attract military enthusiasts and other visitors." Iroquois helicopters served Australia during the Vietnam War, on deployments to Bougainville and the Solomon Islands, and provided assistance to people who were affected by the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami in Indonesia, providing urgently needed aid to many isolated areas. Iroquois helicopters will become tourist attractions at military bases right around Australia including Bandiana and Point Cook in Victoria; Darwin in the Northern Territory; Holsworthy in New South Wales; Oakey and Enoggera in Queensland, along with the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. Another five Iroquois helicopters will be kept by the Australian Defence Force for training and another two will be offered for sale to national returned service organisations. www.defence.gov.au/defencenews/stories/2010/Jul/0706a.htmTenders open for ex Army Iroquois australianaviation.com.au/2011/11/tenders-open-for-ex-army-iroquois/ |
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Post by beagle on Apr 11, 2013 19:32:47 GMT 12
RNZAF Museum already has 1, MOTAT to get 1, Historic Flight to get 1 maybe.
Probably no usage at the training school.
Donate them to Fijian Army
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 11, 2013 20:32:19 GMT 12
Has the Air Force Museum of New Zealand got a genuine RNZAF one now?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 11, 2013 20:33:01 GMT 12
Don't encourage the Fijian Army, they'll probably invade us. Their military would kick ours' arses!
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Post by mumbles on Apr 11, 2013 20:38:02 GMT 12
Don't encourage the Fijian Army, they'll probably invade us. Their military would kick ours' arses! Doubt it. Last time they were in the news and out and about on the streets for whatever crisis was happening it was clear in the footage that there were no magazines in the small-arms  . Not sure who they were trying to impress with that. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 11, 2013 21:46:20 GMT 12
Fijian soldiers don't need small arms. They are pretty handy in unarmed combat.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 11, 2013 21:51:55 GMT 12
Has the Air Force Museum of New Zealand got a genuine RNZAF one now? Not yet but one is on its way soon, along with a Sioux. The one they currently have never flew with the RNZAF, it was one bought from the US Army for spares a good few years back. |
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Post by ngatimozart on Apr 11, 2013 21:53:21 GMT 12
Fijian soldiers don't need small arms. They are pretty handy in unarmed combat. Depends if they've been on the fire water or not ;D I saw a fight between the Fijians and the Papua New Guineans at the Sgts mes at Hobsonville one night. Only a real stupid fool was going to try and break that one up. The Fijian Army has a lot of experience peacekeeping especially in the Middle East so I would presume that their skills would be preety current. Thye have lost a few people peacekeeping over the years. Their only trouble is that the army likes to dabble in politics. |
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Post by beagle on Apr 12, 2013 5:11:12 GMT 12
comon, comon, keep to thread topic.
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Post by jjdavies on Apr 12, 2013 10:47:32 GMT 12
Has the Air Force Museum of New Zealand got a genuine RNZAF one now? Not yet but one is on its way soon, along with a Sioux. The one they currently have never flew with the RNZAF, it was one bought from the US Army for spares a good few years back. Was it bought for spares or was it donated to the Museum and the decision later taken to recover the serviceable parts for use on our own UH-1Hs? I have a newspaper clipping somewhere showing it being loaded into the back of a Herc at Wigram for transport up to 3 Squadron's base. I'll try and dig it out. |
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Post by obiwan27 on Apr 12, 2013 12:41:21 GMT 12
comon, comon, keep to thread topic. Off topic, but - BEAGLE FOR MODERATOR!!! ;-) |
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Post by lesterpk on Apr 12, 2013 12:42:27 GMT 12
Two were bought as replacement airframes, one is now 3816 (or whatever the highest s/n is) and one is at WB. The RNZAF Museum one was donated by US Army back in 1994 or so and painted as a generic s/n of 3800.
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Post by beagle on Apr 12, 2013 16:35:15 GMT 12
comon, comon, keep to thread topic. Off topic, but - BEAGLE FOR MODERATOR!!! ;-) I have enough insubordinate kids at work to sort out. I keep saying lets go for a walk behind the hangar, well containers in my case, but they think something else will happen. |
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 12, 2013 17:09:39 GMT 12
Not yet but one is on its way soon, along with a Sioux. The one they currently have never flew with the RNZAF, it was one bought from the US Army for spares a good few years back. Was it bought for spares or was it donated to the Museum and the decision later taken to recover the serviceable parts for use on our own UH-1Hs? I have a newspaper clipping somewhere showing it being loaded into the back of a Herc at Wigram for transport up to 3 Squadron's base. I'll try and dig it out. That could be right. 3 Sqn did do some work on it to present it like a RNZAF UH-1H. I did hear that it was in such good condition they wanted to put it back into service but weren't allowed as it was a gift (on loan?) to the Museum! |
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Post by beagle on Apr 12, 2013 17:53:27 GMT 12
Is this the ex US Army one that was used as a VIP airframe in Germany.
Pretty sure it got done up at Whenuapai in 5 Sqn hangar by Lyndon Knowles and a few others.
We got more than 1 though didn't we.
and 1 replaced the Waiuru written off one.
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Post by jjdavies on Apr 12, 2013 22:41:48 GMT 12
Is this the ex US Army one that was used as a VIP airframe in Germany. Pretty sure it got done up at Whenuapai in 5 Sqn hangar by Lyndon Knowles and a few others. We got more than 1 though didn't we. and 1 replaced the Waiuru written off one. I remember when it was first displayed at Wigram before being sent up north it featured the upturned exhaust duct, otherwise known as the "toilet bowl exhaust". |
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Post by nzjet on Apr 13, 2013 16:03:08 GMT 12
I dont believe this uh-1 has ever left wigram after it was delivered in a herc direct to wigram after being donated. It was painted up in 5 hangar and later had the nz style exhaust fitted. It has much lower hours than our ones but it was never allowed to fly or have the power connected as per the instructions when donated.
As per the topic, the nz ones will fetch good prices, they will be able to be sold on the civil market without problems
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. Not sure who they were trying to impress with that.
