Post by ngatimozart on Apr 29, 2013 19:37:07 GMT 12
I thought I should keep the important figures together
A RFI has been issued for the Endeavour replacement with entry into service by 2018. NZ Issues RFI for Naval Tanker Replacement
The intended vessel is a Maritime Projection and Sustainment Capability (MPSC). The RFI calls for:
- carrying a minimum of 8,000 tons of ship fuel and a minimum of 1,700 tons of aviation fuel,
- a requirement for operating medium-sized helicopters (such as New Zealand’s SH-2G Seasprites and recently introduced NH90) and a costed option for operating a CH-47 Chinook,
- the capability for lift on/lift off operations (up to and including 25 tons) to transfer embarked cargo and provision for upper deck stowage of embarked vehicles and a minimum of 12 shipping containers,
- a minimum of 260 lane meters for vehicles and the MPSC also is required to operate two 65-ton landing craft,
- a minimum 8,000 nautical mile-range at 16 knots, with a top speed of 18 knots,
- a nominal ship’s company of 70, plus up to 50 passengers,
- a minimum service life of 25 years,
- the maximum fully laden design draft is not to exceed 26.2 feet,
- it should be able to operate (from December to March) in Antarctic waters as far south as the McMurdo Sounds,
- armament includes “an appropriate number” of manually laid 0.5-inch machine guns and/or space and weight for a close in weapon system such as Phalanx.
I just went through and added up the weights they wanted plus chucked in 500 tonnes for dry stores.
Item Tonnes
Diesel --------------------------------------------------8,000
Kerosene -----------------------------------------------1,700
12 x 20ft TEU @ 20 tonne / TEU -------------------------2,400
26 x 10m vehicles @ 26 tonne / vehicle ------------------2,600
Landing Craft 2 x 65 tonne --------------------------------130
Dry storage -----------------------------------------------500
Total --------------------------------------------------15,330 tonnes
So they must be looking at a 22 - 25,000 tonne fully laden ship at least, so it's going to be up near the Karl Doorman class anyway. Damen Schelde - Joint Logistic Support Ship Don't know about the crewing though. I suppose you could automate a lot of things to a certain degree, but you still need hands to do RAS etc. Converting the fuels into cubic metres with the Cantabria cubic metres in brackets: Diesel 8000 tonnes @ 850.8 density = 9402.91m3 (8,000); Kerosene 1700 tonnes @ 800.0 density = 2125m3 (2000). So they want something with larger fuel stowage than the Cantabria. The [url=http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/page/Portal/ArmadaEspannola/buques_superficie/prefLang_en/06_buques-logisticos--02_buque-aprovisionamiento-combate-cantabria[/url]Cantabria[/url] has a displacement of 19,550 tonnes so adding the sealift component is surely taking the displacement up into the LHD arena.
So I have been thinking that NZG / NZDF must be looking seriously at doing the McMurdo fuel supply trips. That would be funded by Antarctic NZ and the US National Science Foundation. I have been having issues of visualising a Maritime Projection and Sustainment Capability (MPSC) as required by the RNZN so how I figure it is that you take a Cantabria chop it behind the funnel & keep the forrard section. Chop off the after section of a Galicia class from the funnel aft, scale it up and attach it to the forrard section the the Cantabria class. Chuck in the machinery from the LHDs and build a NH 90 & chook house aft of the container storage area.
This'll get meo4 thinking ;D His input would be very informative.
A RFI has been issued for the Endeavour replacement with entry into service by 2018. NZ Issues RFI for Naval Tanker Replacement
The intended vessel is a Maritime Projection and Sustainment Capability (MPSC). The RFI calls for:
- carrying a minimum of 8,000 tons of ship fuel and a minimum of 1,700 tons of aviation fuel,
- a requirement for operating medium-sized helicopters (such as New Zealand’s SH-2G Seasprites and recently introduced NH90) and a costed option for operating a CH-47 Chinook,
- the capability for lift on/lift off operations (up to and including 25 tons) to transfer embarked cargo and provision for upper deck stowage of embarked vehicles and a minimum of 12 shipping containers,
- a minimum of 260 lane meters for vehicles and the MPSC also is required to operate two 65-ton landing craft,
- a minimum 8,000 nautical mile-range at 16 knots, with a top speed of 18 knots,
- a nominal ship’s company of 70, plus up to 50 passengers,
- a minimum service life of 25 years,
- the maximum fully laden design draft is not to exceed 26.2 feet,
- it should be able to operate (from December to March) in Antarctic waters as far south as the McMurdo Sounds,
- armament includes “an appropriate number” of manually laid 0.5-inch machine guns and/or space and weight for a close in weapon system such as Phalanx.
I just went through and added up the weights they wanted plus chucked in 500 tonnes for dry stores.
Item Tonnes
Diesel --------------------------------------------------8,000
Kerosene -----------------------------------------------1,700
12 x 20ft TEU @ 20 tonne / TEU -------------------------2,400
26 x 10m vehicles @ 26 tonne / vehicle ------------------2,600
Landing Craft 2 x 65 tonne --------------------------------130
Dry storage -----------------------------------------------500
Total --------------------------------------------------15,330 tonnes
So they must be looking at a 22 - 25,000 tonne fully laden ship at least, so it's going to be up near the Karl Doorman class anyway. Damen Schelde - Joint Logistic Support Ship Don't know about the crewing though. I suppose you could automate a lot of things to a certain degree, but you still need hands to do RAS etc. Converting the fuels into cubic metres with the Cantabria cubic metres in brackets: Diesel 8000 tonnes @ 850.8 density = 9402.91m3 (8,000); Kerosene 1700 tonnes @ 800.0 density = 2125m3 (2000). So they want something with larger fuel stowage than the Cantabria. The [url=http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/page/Portal/ArmadaEspannola/buques_superficie/prefLang_en/06_buques-logisticos--02_buque-aprovisionamiento-combate-cantabria[/url]Cantabria[/url] has a displacement of 19,550 tonnes so adding the sealift component is surely taking the displacement up into the LHD arena.
So I have been thinking that NZG / NZDF must be looking seriously at doing the McMurdo fuel supply trips. That would be funded by Antarctic NZ and the US National Science Foundation. I have been having issues of visualising a Maritime Projection and Sustainment Capability (MPSC) as required by the RNZN so how I figure it is that you take a Cantabria chop it behind the funnel & keep the forrard section. Chop off the after section of a Galicia class from the funnel aft, scale it up and attach it to the forrard section the the Cantabria class. Chuck in the machinery from the LHDs and build a NH 90 & chook house aft of the container storage area.
This'll get meo4 thinking ;D His input would be very informative.
. Those days are gone. She'd be diesel electric maybe similar to the Canberra LHDs with pods external to the hull for the electric drive and props. Yes I thought about more armament as well, but not of decoys. What about the