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Post by komata on Apr 13, 2015 16:37:02 GMT 12
ErolC
A very quick browse through SEAC Spitfire Camouflage schemes (all marks BTW) seems to indicate that in fact the 'white' tailfeather markings you refer to were standard theatre markings, and that similar marks also adorned SEAC P-47's and Hurricanes.
Hope this helps.
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 13, 2015 16:46:04 GMT 12
komata - my guess is he means the stripe not continuing on to the elevator and rudder, rather than its presence on the empennage?
I have a 1/72 model high-back XIV I converted to a low-back which is almost finished as NH799 as first restored and seen at Wanaka and Wigram, just needs stripes and codes. Maybe I'll finish that and do the bigger one as the new look.
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Post by hbpencil on Apr 13, 2015 17:22:59 GMT 12
I had been wondering if the lack of white stripes on the tail control surfaces was a feature of the scheme, or an artifact of the incomplete paint job. I believe it's a feature. From what I've seen of period photographs the application of the theatre stripes to the control surfaces seemed to be quite random, regardless of aircraft type.
Regards,
HB
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Post by komata on Apr 13, 2015 17:56:45 GMT 12
Zac Thank you for your response, however, I stand by my comment; the images I have checked do not have the white stripe extending across the elevators, or onto the rudder. I would respectfully refer you to Hyperscales' review of Illiad Design's 'Spitfires over India' decal series; specifically sheet 2. Hyperscale's URL is: www.hyperscale.com/images/iliad48028reviewmd_2.jpgI hope this clarifies the situation.
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 13, 2015 17:58:43 GMT 12
Sorry, I think I confused things - that's precisely what I meant! Stripes on the stabilisers, no stripes on the moving parts.
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 14, 2015 13:54:15 GMT 12
Happened to see this SEAC Hurri today.
Claire Hartley @chartleyphotos
A few of @dunc_Mason in Hurricane PZ865 today...lovely to see! Will upload more over next few days
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Post by ZacYates on Jun 7, 2015 15:08:59 GMT 12
It looks like NH799's engine issues, which kept it ground-bound at Ardmore this time last week, have been resolved as there are photos on Facebook of it home at Omaka today. Wonderful to see! I can't embed so, from Marty Nicoll: "Another new kid on the block" And from James Orphan: "Running out of hangar space"
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Post by scrooge on Jun 7, 2015 16:41:16 GMT 12
Given that WWI aircraft have stories about not painting ailerons, elevators and rudders, or having instructions issued saying to remove said markings due to the changes the weight of the paint had on the control surfaces balance and flutter charateristics and then further stories being told of units over painting said markings with more paint. Could the lack of white on rudder and elevator be much the same with this scheme?
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Post by shorty on Jun 7, 2015 21:42:08 GMT 12
As a LAME I would say that the reason is indeed to do with balance of the control surfaces and the problems of interchangeability between aircraft
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 9, 2015 8:31:37 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2015 9:09:56 GMT 12
There are only six Mk XIV's in existence? I assumed they were a much more common mark of Spitfire than that.
Also, what is meant by battle-hardened? Did this aircraft see combat?
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Post by shorty on Jun 9, 2015 9:37:16 GMT 12
Dave, you still believe everything reporters write?
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Post by davem2 on Jun 9, 2015 10:02:55 GMT 12
There are only six Mk XIV's in existence? I assumed they were a much more common mark of Spitfire than that. Also, what is meant by battle-hardened? Did this aircraft see combat? Dave Yes it saw combat with the RIAF against Pakistan in 1948 (see CW 95) Dave
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2015 10:30:10 GMT 12
Ah right, I seem to vaguely recall that now. Thanks Dave.
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 9, 2015 10:42:46 GMT 12
There are only six Mk XIV's in existence? I assumed they were a much more common mark of Spitfire than that. Also, what is meant by battle-hardened? Did this aircraft see combat? Wikipedia currently lists 6 airworthy, and a dozen plus static/restoration/project. So presumably a reply from GO had the qualifier 'flying' or 'airworthy' dropped somewhere on the path to publication.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2015 11:07:16 GMT 12
That makes a bit more sense. Thanks.
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Post by ZacYates on Jun 9, 2015 14:38:46 GMT 12
There's a boatload of comments on that story, great to see such interest! And I was feeling envious of the view from Mr Orphan's office!
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Post by Mustang51 on Jun 9, 2015 15:47:19 GMT 12
Soooooooooo....... noseart?
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Post by Radialicious on Jun 9, 2015 16:53:00 GMT 12
It's great to see NH799 at her new home. Very exciting for Omaka. With regard to the debate about painted control surfaces, I remember seeing an Air NZ Boeing 747-400 at Auckland as she was being prepared for sale and a ferry flight overseas. The fin had the Koru painted over in blue and all other Air NZ markings were painted over to deindentify the aircraft. The portion of the Koru however that extended onto the rudder was untouched due to the effect the extra paint may have on the mass balancing of the rudder. Perhaps the Avspecs boys can shed light on the reason in the case of NH799.
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Post by brades83 on Jun 9, 2015 18:46:38 GMT 12
There's 21 surviving XIV's according to Spitfire Survivors Volume II
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