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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 20, 2014 21:38:35 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Nov 21, 2014 11:44:55 GMT 12
Fascinating stuff and great photos too! Amazing what's tucked away in hangars/sheds. Any plans to cover the Miles breed?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 27, 2014 21:52:08 GMT 12
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Post by isc on Nov 27, 2014 23:07:57 GMT 12
The Lancashire Prospector Mk1 appears in the 1961 "Observers book of Aircraft", it says that more than 25 had been sold, mainly to ag opperators. they were developing the Mk2 with a 410hp Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah 10 radial. isc
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Post by jetstream on Dec 11, 2014 6:51:15 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 28, 2015 23:11:59 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 9:03:23 GMT 12
Lovely photos, Peter. I hope AQZ finds a new home soon and returns to the air.
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Post by dodgy on Apr 29, 2015 15:23:26 GMT 12
AQZ looks and smells lovely, but the flying experience is.... worrying!! Stalling her is an altogether disconcerting experience as is taking off on a hot day :-)
Funny story about the 'Oman' Provost. I remember meeting some very pleasant Oman government people who came all the way to NZ to inspect and purchase a prized piece of their aviation heritage (as it had been pitched to them). Their demeanour changed dramatically as it dawned that someone was trying to pull the wool over their eyes! I cannot speculate who this person was, but that isn't material, I just remember them so well. So, is this plane for sale then? Haven't seen it on TM
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 16:11:43 GMT 12
Dodgy, I'm confused - which airframe are you talking about?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 29, 2015 20:13:13 GMT 12
I suspect, ZK-PPP
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Post by dodgy on Apr 30, 2015 9:34:09 GMT 12
Sorry, I was talking about PPP with the Oman story. I think I have photos of the gents somewhere as well.
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 7, 2016 14:46:30 GMT 12
Proctor 5 ZK-AQZ - addendumEarlier this month I was able to contact Tom Williams and arrange acces to the SVAS hangar at Masterton so that I could check out their Proctor 5 ZK-AQZ. It was, unfortunatly, a thumping wet day so only interior photos were possible. The Proctor is said to be currently airworthy, though apparently has only been taxiied in recent years as it has a bit of a maverick reputation amongst the available pilots. ZK-AQZ has been for sale for a few years, but has not yet attracted anyone with both the interest and the money. Spotted ZK-AQZ at the back of the SVAS Hangar, during the flightline walk for TVAL Flying Weekend 31st Jan. Tiger Moth ZK-BLK was been taken out for a flight, so I snapped these while the hangar doors were open.  Percival Proctor 5 ZK-AQZ in SVAS Hangar by Errol Cavit, on Flickr |
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Post by kathleen44 on May 8, 2018 22:34:47 GMT 12
Proctor I P6260 was a much older aircraft, being built by Percival Aircraft Ltd. at Luton with the c/n K.294. Civilianized after RAF service it went back with the Percival company and became G-AHUW on 17Jun1946. This ownership would just have been for the conversion process, as G-AHUW was cancelled on 10Sep1946. The aircraft was assembled at Mangere and became ZK-AKQ on 6Nov1946 with L E Clark. He sold it to the Nelson Aero Club in January 1947. It was a welcome addition to their Tiger Moth fleet, but reportedly few Nelson club pilots took advantage of the Proctor as it was considerably more expensive to fly. It was largely used on ambulance and charter work, with CFI John Reid kept busy due to Nelson’s geographic isolation. Although there were plans for a Nelson – Takaka scheduled service that would have utilized ZK-AKQ, this never eventuated. ZK-AKQ spun off low-level turn & crashed at Ranzau, near Nelson, 1Jun53. All occupants died immediately in the crash. The crash occurred in a paddock owned by Mr Trecaey W. Smith at Ranzau, and all four men were members of the Nelson Aero Club. They are listed as: Barry John Perry, aged 21 , single, the pilot of the aircraft and son of Mr and Mrs F. Perry, of Crscent Street, Richmond. he had been residing with an aunt in Iwa Road, Nelson. James Henry Cromie, aged 23, single, son of Mr and Mrs A.J. Cromie of 5 Oxford Street, Richmond. Ernest James Tucker, aged 29, a married man with one child, of Roto Street, Tahunanui. Donald Hall, aged 24, single, son of Mrs C.G. Hall, 59 Brook Street, Nelson They took off from Tahunanui and about 2.55pm and the accident happened about ten minutes later when they were only six miles from the airfield. A witness saw the aeroplane fall into a left hand bank, lift and then go into a spin from which it didn't recover. Apparently both Perry and Tucker held PPL's and the other two were student pilots. It was becoming apparent, after the loss of ZK-AHQ, ZK-AHV and now ZK-AKQ in apparently similar accidents, that the Proctor was not at its safest in low-level low-speed situations and needed careful handling. Proctor 1 ZK-AKQ at Mangere, 1946.  ZK-AKQ visiting Christchurch, outside the Airwork facility Here seen at Omaka |
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Post by kathleen44 on May 8, 2018 22:39:11 GMT 12
With regard to the article "NZ Percival Aircraft", Swift to the Sky, New Zealand's Military Aviation History and the Proctor crash in Nelson on the 1st of June 1953, the author has given a wrong name to one of those killed .... this was Ernest JOHN Tucker, not Ernest JAMES Tucker. He was my late brother, and from his correct second name of John, was commonly known by his family and all who knew him as 'Jack'. -- Kathleen Grant (nee Tucker).
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Post by errolmartyn on May 9, 2018 12:53:17 GMT 12
With regard to the article "NZ Percival Aircraft", Swift to the Sky, New Zealand's Military Aviation History and the Proctor crash in Nelson on the 1st of June 1953, the author has given a wrong name to one of those killed .... this was Ernest JOHN Tucker, not Ernest JAMES Tucker. He was my late brother, and from his correct second name of John, was commonly known by his family and all who knew him as 'Jack'. -- Kathleen Grant (nee Tucker). Hello Kathleen, I am the author of Swift to the Sky but there is no entry in the book concerning the Proctor crash. I think you may have misinterpreted what is displayed at the foot of my post on the thread. (I mention only to save other forum viewers from possible confusion.) Errol |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 17:14:30 GMT 12
Who else has photos of ZK-ALS in James Aviation markings? A quick Google search only brings me back to Peter’s posts here and at Key. Is it safe to guess the wings are silver? |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 10, 2020 18:40:44 GMT 12
Another view of ZK-AKV at Milson(?)  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2021 14:10:52 GMT 12
The aircraft was painted in quite an avant garde colour scheme with the name ‘Kiwi’ prominently painted on the port engine cowl. Proctor 3 ZK-ATW at Mangere 1950  Two years ago Dora Wings released a series of model kits of the Gull family including the Proctor, and one boxing included markings for ZK-ATW. After a fine build of this kit was posted on Britmodeller there's been debate as to whether the aircraft wore the scheme as suggested by the kitmaker, which is essentially the above two photos, or a mirrored scheme. I was wondering if Peter could confirm the Mangere photos were taken on the same day, or that the aircraft did in fact have this mismatched colour scheme. |
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Post by scrooge on Nov 21, 2021 19:57:10 GMT 12
My powers of observation would say those photos are at different times, both time of day (refer the differing shadow) and differing time of life for the aircraft, noting the paint on the back of the propeller (1st likely to be long yellow tip on black and second black or red tip on silver/bare aluminium).
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 1, 2021 22:08:59 GMT 12
Note the indication that the two photos of ZK-ATW came to me from different sources.
They could possibly have both been originally taken by the same photographer at the same date, but you'd have to assume that the odds are against it.
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