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Post by pjw4118 on Oct 8, 2014 16:50:09 GMT 12
The Ventura at Motat is next in line for an upgrade , the working team was announced today. They have some corrosion fixing to do and a good service before painting.
The aircraft data file held shows it as NZ4600 ( 41-38117 , FD665) , a USAAF machine ex Alaska but with wings from a Lodestar ( Australia ) and a tail unit from NZ 4522 and 4618. I will post the full file when I have a decent copy.
The questions are
Did this aircraft have any combat history
What was its service history
What paint scheme did it have
What paint scheme could it have
All comments welcome
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Post by ZacYates on Oct 9, 2014 10:12:47 GMT 12
I'm afraid I have nothing to offer but excitement to watch the project progress, Pete, so good luck to all involved and I'll follow the thread with great interest.
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Post by ErrolC on Oct 9, 2014 10:36:08 GMT 12
People on the WIX forum might have some pointers on US service.
Sent from my D5503 using proboards
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Post by baz62 on Oct 9, 2014 11:55:56 GMT 12
Must have been listening when Teresa and I had a look over her the other day. I was commenting to Teresa that I hoped she was due to go inside for a bit of TLC.
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Post by Mustang51 on Oct 9, 2014 12:56:32 GMT 12
Have a very special spot for the Ventura. After spending all that time working on one then being part of the crew on the Trans-Pac flight it was heartbreaking to see it end up in the paddock........Hope to see progress on its restoration both here on the forum and also in person.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 9, 2014 13:00:12 GMT 12
It has been in the planning for a long time Baz.
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Post by baz62 on Oct 10, 2014 11:44:50 GMT 12
part of the crew on the Trans-Pac flight it was heartbreaking to see it end up in the paddock...... What happened to that one? Did they repair it as a static? If I recall wasn't it a double engine failure when the mags got accidentally switched off? |
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Post by Mustang51 on Oct 16, 2014 13:19:05 GMT 12
Yup.... that's the machine. Heartbreaking really. All that work, expenditure and stress over all those years. Its still with RAAF Museum never to fly again. It could but not the desire any more nor the cash available when the museum has bigger fish to fry. Would be great to see the Lockheed C.40, Huddie and PV.1 in the air together......... If the ex-Ansett L.10 could be made airworthy again you could do a Lockheed family thing here with L.10, C.40, Hudson, PV-1, Neptune and Orion plus, I guess HARS Connie (C-121). So what's the MOTAT plan? Any possible intention of engine run?
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Post by ZacYates on Oct 17, 2014 8:57:42 GMT 12
Off-topic, but isn't there a Lockheed 12 airworthy over there too, Ando? Doug Hamilton's I think? Quite the line-up!
I wouldn't hold my breath regarding engine runs, there's been quite a discussion on the MOTAT thread and I think the general consensus toward live aircraft at that site is "H&S says no".
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Post by davidd on Oct 17, 2014 11:23:40 GMT 12
Could somebody pease enlighten me as to what a Lockeed C.40 is - cannot say I have ever heard of such a plane - is it a mistyping for a C-60, or a Lockeed 14?
David D
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Post by TS on Oct 17, 2014 11:47:18 GMT 12
LOCKHEED C-40 The Lockheed C-40 was based on the commercial Model 12 Electra Junior. The Model 12 was essentially a scaled down version of the Lockheed Model 10 Electra. The Air Corps already had several Electras in service and designated them C-35, C-36 and C-37. The Model 12 was designed initially as a small commercial airliner capable of carrying five or six passengers. It used the same engines as the Model 12 and was about 20 mph faster due to its smaller size. The Air Corps tested a Lockheed company demonstrator Model 12 at Wright Field, Ohio, during the summer of 1938. In the fall of the same year, the Army bought the plane along with two more Model 12-A Electra Juniors and designated them C-40. The C-40s were used primarily as staff transport planes from 1939 through the early years of World War II. The Army declared the C-40s surplus in the middle of WWII and sold most of them -- some to foreign air forces. Type Number built/ converted Remarks C-40 3 Model 12 Electra Junior C-40A 10 Production C-40 C-40B 1 Tricycle landing gear testbed C-40C 0 Designation not used UC-40D 11 Impressed Electra Juniors TECHNICAL NOTES: Engines: Two Pratt & Whitney R-985-17 radials of 450 hp each Maximum speed: 218 mph Cruising speed: 208 mph Range: 800 miles Service ceiling: 22,900 ft. Span: 49 ft. 6 in. Length: 36 ft. 4 in. Height: 9 ft. 9 in. Weight: 9,200 lbs. maximum gross weight Crew: Two (pilot and co-pilot) Passenger capacity: 5 Serial numbers: C-40: 38-536 to 38-538; C-40A: 38-539 to 38-548; C-40B: 38-582; UC-40D: 42-22249, 42-38280, 42-38346 to 42-38352, 42-57504, 42-66386 Googles your friend.  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 17, 2014 13:42:44 GMT 12
I must admit I had to look up the C-40 too the other day. Good to see i am not the only one.  |
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Post by davidd on Oct 18, 2014 10:23:39 GMT 12
Now that we know it is a C-40 rather than a C.40, it all makes prefect sense. Thanks for that.
David D
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Post by ZacYates on Oct 20, 2014 15:53:11 GMT 12
Ah, so it's a C-40 not a 12?
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Post by Mustang51 on Oct 21, 2014 7:30:22 GMT 12
Bit off-topic but Doug's is a C.40A. It was built in 1938 and delivered to the USAAC along with, I believe, three others for the use of the 1st Pursuit Group at Selfridge Field Michigan. Doug's aircraft was allocated to the Headquarters Flight of the Group while one each was allocated to the individual squadrons. Light transport but only five seats instead of six. Post war converted to six seat and therefore Lockheed 12 configuration......... and it is a beautiful machine !Pity about the H and S with the Ventura. They are the biggest growth industry in the world.
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