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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 27, 2014 15:23:48 GMT 12
This message has been posted on the Cambridge Police Facebook page.
"Afternoon people.. If you drive a car you should probably keep reading. The below to points concern you.
Firstly, you may or may not have seen in the media today that the 1st of December marks the start of the National Safer Summer roading campaign. Last year during the campaign the speed tolerance was dropped to 4km/h and we all experienced 22% fewer fatalities.
So this summer, between the 1st of December and the 31st of January, the speed tolerance is gone. Yes, you read correct. The speed tolerance on our roads is zero. If you are caught driving over the speed limit at all, you are liable to be ticketed. We will keep you updated about this campaign.
Next point... Over the next two weeks, we are supporting the Waipa District Council in a campaign to help prevent vehicle crashes at intersections. We will be taking a zero tolerance approach to people who fail to stop or give way at intersections. Remember - Stop means that your wheels have physically stopped turning. The fine for failing to do so is $150.
We are getting to the busy end of the year when people seem to go a little bit crazy on the roads. The zero tolerance approach to the above issues may seem a bit intense, but rest assured, this has nothing to do with revenue gathering or picking on people.. The last thing we want to spend our summer doing is telling people that someone from their family won't be turning up for Christmas.
So share this around, drive safe and enjoy the sun!"
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Post by suthg on Nov 27, 2014 15:33:11 GMT 12
Heard it at work today too. I'm not going anywhere over the Xmas weekend - except to work each day, the Mill runs 24-7-365, and someone has to draw the short straw each year! At least I don't have to travel any real distance at all.
Take care folks, lower alcohol levels as well from Monday.
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Post by baz62 on Nov 27, 2014 17:43:37 GMT 12
No car is capable of maintaining a constant speed limit unless they expect us to put cruise control on? And do we ignore what's going on around us and stare at the speedo? Eyes should be looking outside the vehicle as much as practical. Nor does the speedometer in our cars necessarily indicate correctly. Should have left it at 4Kph.
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Post by Chris F on Nov 27, 2014 18:03:03 GMT 12
I understand to some degree the Police point of view that the last thing they want to do is tell some family that a family member has been killed in a road crash...not a nice job..but that's there job and they are paid well for it. Each year xxx number of people will die on our roads no matter what you do,no matter how many billions you spend on roading,no matter how much you reduce speed limits,no matter how much advertising you do there will always be xxx amount killed no matter what. The only way to stop this is to take the human from behind the wheel altogether and this may seem far fetched but it's not that far away in real terms..Telsa Motor Company are currently well down the track on a new model that does take the human driver out of the car altogether using high tech GPS technology. Telsa have been the leaders in electric powered cars and have a 99% reliability in Germany and are currently working on having solar cells built into the metal work of the car for self charging...the future in motoring is very exciting. I have personally as a job done accident valuations on cars that have been involved in crashes were someone has lost there life and I can tell you the smell and sights are something one never forgets...but this tolerance is somewhat an over kill.
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Post by suthg on Nov 27, 2014 18:48:47 GMT 12
What is probably not obvious to some is that lowering the speed limit by abolishing the margin, is not going to change the number of deaths on the road due to speed compared with last year.
Most deaths and serious injuries are due to the idiots willingly breaking the laws, either driving while drunk or under the influence of a drug, distracted with cellphones (breaking another law) or speeding with no regard for other's lives or racing the lights etc. This will only allow them though, to stop more people to check for breath alcohol and WOF's and licenses and to add to revenue gathering.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Nov 27, 2014 19:37:11 GMT 12
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Nov 27, 2014 19:41:05 GMT 12
I just noticed I've got the rank of Air Commodore.
How long have I had that rank?
Does that mean I can exceed the speed limit by a greater tolerance before I get ticketed?
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Post by scrooge on Nov 27, 2014 20:52:17 GMT 12
I'll take a punt on 7 posts ago KTJ (this post accurate while KTJ has 4,007 posts)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 27, 2014 21:56:34 GMT 12
Correct!
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Post by Darren Masters on Dec 1, 2014 6:22:51 GMT 12
Same comment I made on the stuff web site:
"Is this the NZ Police/Govt version of a November April Fool's joke"?
Just waiting for the "But it's not revenue" comments...
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Post by suthg on Dec 1, 2014 6:29:28 GMT 12
What it also does do is tie up resources that would otherwise be used chasing criminals!
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 1, 2014 7:29:51 GMT 12
When you get a WOF for your car they check that the speedo is working - i.e. that the needle actually moves. There is no check on the accuracy of the instrument. Thus you could be driving at an indicated 100kph, and your real speed could be over (or under) this figure. So what defence would you have if you are pulled up for doing 103kph when your speedo showed your speed as 99kph?
Sue Toyota/Honda/GM et al?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 1, 2014 8:29:02 GMT 12
Drive at 90 to 95km/h and you won't have a problem. You might have to plan your day better as you may arrive 5 minutes or so later than usual, but that's better than getting a fine, right?
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Post by madmac on Dec 1, 2014 8:38:13 GMT 12
Given that the speedo's are legally only required to be actuate to within 10%, one does wonder how those tickets are not challengible in court.
One would hope that the accident figures published by the police are not the the figures that are used for the planning of their road safety campaigns because they would be completely useless, unless they where adjusted for fleet mileage, and other factors (there wouldn't be any relationship between the years of the lowest road tolls and ecomonic down turn would there).
So how long will it be, before we all get tracking in our cars and you get a "safety fine" every time, we just drive on the road at any speed.
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Post by camtech on Dec 1, 2014 10:23:42 GMT 12
Given that the speedo's are legally only required to be actuate to within 10%, one does wonder how those tickets are not challengible in court. Quite true. Everytime I go past one of those "Your speed is" radar thingys on the side of the road, I check my speed. Most of the time they tell me I'm travelling slower than the speed they indicate. It would be helpful if testing stations provided a speedometer accuracy check as part of the service. I know many years ago, us instrument bashers used to check and recalibrate speedo's for MT, but that was in the days of speedo cables and mechanical speedos. But these days with multiple tyre sizes, and pulse tachometers, it is very difficult to check. On the motorway, I just set cruise control to about 103ks and never seem to have any problems.
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Post by beagle on Dec 2, 2014 16:58:20 GMT 12
No car is capable of maintaining a constant speed limit unless they expect us to put cruise control on? And do we ignore what's going on around us and stare at the speedo? Eyes should be looking outside the vehicle as much as practical. Nor does the speedometer in our cars necessarily indicate correctly. Should have left it at 4Kph. yeah I noticed that in the van I had etc, but with this new Toyota I have, it is actually very good. Very stable, speedo arm stays quite steady on what I want. I take it everything is electrical nowadays. As for cruise control, yuck, first time with a car that has it and have tried it a few times and surges away, slows then surges away again. probably uses more fuel anyway.
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Post by baz62 on Dec 2, 2014 17:42:07 GMT 12
Cruise control shouldn't work like that beags! Mondeo is a nice constant speed, no surging for me!
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Post by jaw on Dec 2, 2014 17:45:11 GMT 12
Sadly, - it seems that NZ is steadily going down the moronic lowest common denominator path previously taken across the ditch..
Zero tolerance for speed simply forces OCD-type clock watching & makes over-taking ludicrously dangerous..
As for demerit point games & 0.05 BAL.. .. just more punishing of the regular people..
Habitual types will take their chances & when the line-stepping threshold gets too high..
Mad Max city.. ..or police state USA.. sans their constitutional protections such as 'probable cause'..
Really the `70s were a 'Golden Age'.. ..to hell with the 'road toll' - its always going to be with us.. Sure as fate..
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Post by John L on Dec 2, 2014 18:13:59 GMT 12
The decrease in road deaths has been mainly due to improved vehicle design and improved roads - not enhanced enforcement based on simplistic reading of statistics.
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Post by Darren Masters on Dec 3, 2014 17:02:37 GMT 12
The decrease in road deaths has been mainly due to improved vehicle design and improved roads - not enhanced enforcement based on simplistic reading of statistics. And that is the best way I have heard it put so far!
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