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Post by SEAN on Dec 8, 2014 11:54:36 GMT 12
Can't read this as I don't have the access... But this is on the ADM Website: Unconfirmed reports suggest that NZ is considering the rapid acquisition of two Boeing C-17A Globemaster III strategic transports to bolster its air lift fleet in the near term....www.australiandefence.com.au/
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Post by ErrolC on Dec 8, 2014 12:04:43 GMT 12
I've seen this rumour reported online over the past couple of weeks, by plausible people.
Sent from my D5503 using proboards
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Post by delticman on Dec 8, 2014 13:16:33 GMT 12
I heard this too but slightly different. If the RAAF are getting four more, two would be based in New Zealand as they are running out of room at Richmond. That's got to be win, win.
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Post by Barnsey on Dec 8, 2014 13:33:47 GMT 12
Pooled ANZAC transport force similar to the NATO C-17 fleet, or at least pooled support and depot level maintenance? Good news if it comes to fruition.
RAAF C-17s are based at Amberley with 36 Sqn.
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Post by delticman on Dec 8, 2014 13:40:16 GMT 12
Oh, in recent years, I've spent a day riding Sydney Trains for a day and there have always been C17's at Richmond in recent years. There is a nice Fish & Chip place there and a nice park to eat them and watch the C17's doing touch and goes.
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Post by phil82 on Dec 8, 2014 14:45:41 GMT 12
There was once an aircraft in the [then]RAF Transport Command nicknamed "The Pig" but officially a Vickers Valetta. C17s for the RNZAF wouldn't therefore be the first in the "pigs can fly" category!
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Post by isc on Dec 8, 2014 19:46:14 GMT 12
Danny Watson(radio NZ afternoon talkback host) went to Antarctic a couple of weeks ago, he reckoned that the RNZAF should get C-17's for comfort if nothing else. isc
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Post by exkiwiforces on Dec 8, 2014 20:04:07 GMT 12
I can tell you, this has been discuss on both sides of ditch over last couple of years at various levels. With a view that RNZAF obtaining 2-3 C17's so that RAAF and RNZAF pooled their A/C to formed some sort of Joint Airlift SQN.
I think Mr K Rudd raise this idea back under his somewhat bold DWP to form some kind a Joint ANZAC Taskforce, but it somewhat went the way of the DODO after he got knifed by that Redhead Gillard and the Kiwi government baulking at the cost of maintaining/ operating them.
I did read a Janes article about 2 mths ago saying that RAAF had obtain two more C17's and it also said a couple of Asia Pacific nations were thinking of obtaining a couple C17's.
One question I do have is the NZ Government/ RNZAF hedging their bets on the A400 if the A400 goes tits up??
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Post by beagle on Dec 8, 2014 21:31:51 GMT 12
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by Chris F on Dec 10, 2014 16:49:39 GMT 12
Would love to see these in RNZAF service but with the dairy payout dropping today to $4.70 that's going to wipe close to 7 billion out of economy yearly..so the bean counters in Wellington will be taking a few panadol right now.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Dec 10, 2014 18:10:19 GMT 12
Got to be a win-win for the NZDF and ADF if we do get 2 of our own and share logistics.
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Post by jonesy on Dec 10, 2014 18:38:49 GMT 12
Have to share the fuel costs then....its wayyyyy cheaper over here
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Post by beagle on Dec 10, 2014 21:11:37 GMT 12
I think we need a lot more information yet before we can say too much regards accuracy. Meaning, if they are seriously looking at this, how many and what would we pay for. Would it be just the aircraft themselves and if we needed a spare part, would we have to wait for the next trans tasman commercial flight to bring it over. Surely this would put a huge dent in the overall airlift replacement budget and limit frame numbers on the other types we were looking at. I was thinking that if so, that instead of 5-6 A400's that were maybe in the original mix of options, that they would use the C17 for the bigger jobs and for local use get 7-8 C295. But a thought just came into my head that if we did purchase C17's then would the thinking of the replacement committee be that after lots of talking between mr's Key and Abbott that we go down the same line as them and get 6 C27's.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 10, 2014 21:27:01 GMT 12
If they get the C-17's perhaps they will sell the Boeing 757's?
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Post by beagle on Dec 10, 2014 21:52:58 GMT 12
Although I am a big fan of the B757 amd the capabilities it has with the modifications we have done, I think they will be replaced early 2020's. So what would Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern do for overseas VIP flights
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 11, 2014 15:13:43 GMT 12
She could ride one of the flying pigs that are passing your window?
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Post by beagle on Dec 11, 2014 15:53:57 GMT 12
another 2 elections and she could be up there Dave
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Post by saratoga on Dec 11, 2014 16:15:26 GMT 12
Being Labour she'd disband the Strike Force,oh, they've already done that. OK,She'd disband the Airlift capability and cycle or ride her camel to wherever she was going....
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Post by jonesy on Dec 11, 2014 18:23:40 GMT 12
This is quickly slipping into politics mode again gents.... Although I can see how easily that can happen when discussing current/future/previous RNZAF equipment
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Post by phil on Dec 11, 2014 19:58:58 GMT 12
Apparently the new MoD got a look at a RAAF C17 and decided we needed some.
Probably finally found an aircraft he could fit in.
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