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Post by skyhawkfan1 on Nov 19, 2015 20:21:17 GMT 12
Exactly. So how about shutting up and waiting to see a C17 with a KIWI on it before we waste more time...... My apologies for just trying to find out if there was any update...for goodness sake!!! I wont bother asking in the future.
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Post by TS on Nov 19, 2015 21:10:20 GMT 12
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Post by tfly on Nov 19, 2015 23:26:59 GMT 12
Isn't this what a forum is for? Discussing subjects that we all have a common interest in. If some people take offence then there is a simple answer don't read the threat it really is that simple. I'm amazed at how shirty and annoyed folk get over the most minor of matters. Maybe they would do better to leave the forum if not for their own sake then at least give those of us who are interested a rest from their ranting!
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Post by beagle on Nov 20, 2015 9:41:54 GMT 12
and where did you get that news I have heard about maybe second hand usaf stocks too the sqns aren't being deactivated, I think it was just aircraft sitting idle waiting for deeper maintenance
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Post by beagle on Nov 27, 2015 9:19:07 GMT 12
rumours going around this week were that with the UK equalivient of our white paper, that 2 C17s were to be offered to the RNZAF. I was sceptical and sure enough they are hanging onto all theirs.
The other rumour was that Qatar that got 4 of the last 5 have defaulted on payment on 2 of them. but still. if they want them, they will make a deal where they come up with money I am sure.
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Post by isc on Nov 27, 2015 19:38:22 GMT 12
Just because Air Forces have aircraft sitting around not doing anything doesn't mean much. If things in the Middle East hot up a bit more, they might need all the aircraft they can get in the air. isc
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Post by waja2000 on Nov 30, 2015 22:44:35 GMT 12
Bye-Bye C17, production close on sunday. The last Boeing C-17 Globemaster III cargo plane built at the company's Long Beach plant departed from the facility Sunday, ending production — at least for now — of the last military or civilian aircraft to be built in California. In an event attended by hundreds of Boeing employees, the aerospace giant officially ended production of the C-17 with a rollout of the final transport and a flyover near the company's assembly plant at Long Beach Airport. www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-last-boeing-c-17-takes-flight-as-california-aerospace-era-ends-20151129-story.html
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Post by beagle on Dec 2, 2015 17:27:06 GMT 12
There is still 1 that is parked up at another airfield unsold.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 13, 2015 15:41:16 GMT 12
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Post by skyhawkfan1 on Dec 13, 2015 17:25:58 GMT 12
Excellent, by the time they make up their minds we wont have any plans fit to fly.... (intended sarcasm)
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Post by thelensofhistory on Dec 13, 2015 17:35:04 GMT 12
If politicians excel at anything it is kicking the can down the road so a future government has to deal with a (enter issue here) . Eventually the reaches the end of the road as it as with the RNZAF aging C-130's. Since voters have failed punish successive governments for the shabby way they have treated the NZDF the consequences will just have to be felt in not too distance future.
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Post by thelensofhistory on Dec 13, 2015 17:37:40 GMT 12
NZ politicians are just dumb and crazy enough to consider such an idea. And yes I caught your sarcasm.
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Post by suthg on Dec 13, 2015 19:12:21 GMT 12
And they all run away from a major commitment to spend a year out from elections. It's not just the RNZAF Transport sector, you may as well add to the list the ageing RNZN fleet that needs committed spending over the next 10 years as well. So are we going to transport one NH90 at a time on the Canterbury over 2 days to a Pacific island in need? Its range with additional fuel tanks may get it there directly say to the Cook Islands. Anyone know?
Sent from my SM-G900I using proboards
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 13, 2015 19:52:23 GMT 12
Meanwhile the NZ Government committed today to gift $200 million over four years to our Pacific neighbours for them to prepare for the effect of rising sea levels. That'll be money well spent, I seriously doubt.
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Post by thelensofhistory on Dec 13, 2015 20:48:31 GMT 12
Meanwhile the NZ Government committed today to gift $200 million over four years to our Pacific neighbours for them to prepare for the effect of rising sea levels. That'll be money well spent, I seriously doubt. Words can't convey my sheer level of disgust. I find it highly regrettable that events will prove the folly of such moves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 21:16:19 GMT 12
Suthg, more than one '90 can be taken on the Canterbury. They are self deployable with additional fuel tanks on the HSC (heavy stores carriers).
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Post by saratoga on Dec 13, 2015 21:39:28 GMT 12
I've said it before, we don't have a need for the C17. It would be nice to have them (3 or more) but we could never utilise them except in extreme cases. Coalition,Hire or lease aircraft can fill the gap, unfortunately more capably and faster than Air Force operated C17 ever could.
As for the recently refurbished Hercules being 'Rusty',i think someone needs to understand what rust is. Corrosion, possibly, but surely not this soon after overhaul. Also note all the users of C17 are still also using the C130,there doesn't appear to be a current actual replacement for that size aircraft.
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Post by beagle on Dec 14, 2015 4:44:08 GMT 12
note, all uses of both C17 and C130 are way bigger than our country and needs. The C17 would fit perfectly into our countries needs and requirements but not both. Yes the C130 requires replacement but you have to look at the overall big picture and make decisions for every eventuality. Not 100% sure if they got a group servicing along with the LEP but still a major where they would have found some corrosion and the article has blown it totally out of proportion.
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Post by suthg on Dec 14, 2015 14:36:14 GMT 12
@ Mr.Orion- the problem being, that the Hercs can't carry them, not one, and the Canterbury may take two but the transit time is not in hours but days. It is more likely that they fly themselves with internal fuel storage to wherever they need to work.
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Post by Swingtail on Dec 14, 2015 14:44:38 GMT 12
The RNZAF would be foolish to pass up a couple of the Air New Zealand 767-300s when they are retired from the fleet.
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