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Post by ZacYates on Jan 11, 2013 9:47:36 GMT 12
It is an amazing resource and makes for great reading, thanks for all your work!
Dave - sorry about that! This thread was the very first result when I Googled "Paul Jellick MiG-21"!
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Post by mumbles on Jan 11, 2013 21:21:14 GMT 12
MiG "8008" under a tent in Frank Kitts Park on the Wellington waterfront around 1994-95: Obviously some space issues imposed by the tent when it came to photographing the thing!
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 14, 2013 8:24:19 GMT 12
I posted some links to pics of this MiG at the Aircraft Resource Center - trying to establish which would be the best 1:72 model kit to represent this aircraft - and I got some very specific info: "MiG-21MF 8008 is one of the last 20 planes of that version delivered to Poland. She's little bit diferent than "regular" MF, because she's Gorky Plant production aircraft." Another member of that forum clarified this last point by specifying it would be a MiG-21MF-75.
The things you learn!
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 14, 2013 16:29:48 GMT 12
I was looking through a digital copy of MiG-21 In Action and, amazingly, there's a picture of the Kiwi Mig-21MF in service with the Polish Air Force! 35314952540_e62a9bdbfc_o by Zac Yates, on Flickr
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 14, 2013 16:52:23 GMT 12
8008 was the one that was parked outside the Warbirds hangar at Ardmore for some time, around 2008 The two-seater, which presumably was intended to be the flyable aircraft, has been at Rhodes Wanaka Transport museum for some time. Was this the one that was on display at a now defunct museum in Queenstown? At Wanaka, 7sep2010
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Post by bender on Jan 15, 2013 9:44:00 GMT 12
First ever post so here goes.
The Mig that ended up in David Henderson's carpark and was auctioned on Trademe, was first imported into NZ in the early 1990s (1993/94, I think) by Neil Roberts.
He owned the TV production company called Communicado and was later drafted into TVNZ to rark things up. He promised "Great New Zealand Television" and came up with such gems as the programme called "That's Fairly Interesting," a micky-take on "That's Incredible."
He also re-hired John Hawkesby to re-create the Hawkesby/Judy Bailey "dream team" which ended in Hawkesby walking away with an employment settlement worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Enough for him to retire onto a vineyard on Waiheke Island.
I was sure that Roberts imported two - the one from the Polish airforce which was in quite good nick and another, which was in a very sorry state, as spare parts. But it was a long time ago and I'm relying on memory so some of this stuff may not be as factual as I would like.
Whether or not Roberts seriously intended to fly the Mig or not I can't be absolutely certain but I am pretty sure he did. But when he died of cancer the Mig was sold.
Roberts was a passionate larrikin and often came up with schemes that were not thought-though all that well.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 15, 2013 9:55:30 GMT 12
So was this a partnership between Neil Roberts and Paul Jellick? I have never seen any mention of Neil's connection to these two aircraft before.
I remember him and his company, he did make some good TV, New Zealand At War in 1995 for example. He also presented a pretty good talk show for its time called It's Only Wednesday.
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Post by delticman on Jan 15, 2013 10:09:52 GMT 12
8008 arrived in a container at Ardmore between 261193 and 031293. I think that Neil Roberts did have it but it was after Jellick. Has anyone done a search of NZ Wings?
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Post by bender on Jan 15, 2013 10:13:00 GMT 12
To be honest I don't know whether there was any link between the two but Neil was more than capable of talking about "his" Migs when there was more than one owner or a syndicate. This is from Stuff.co.nz www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/37....o-auction-houseHenderson unwilling to let MiG jet go to auction house By MARTIN VAN BEYNEN - The Press Last updated 05:00 21/05/2010 Christchurch property developer David Henderson is not letting go of a MiG fighter plane without a fight. Turners Auctions, acting on instructions from the receiver of Property Ventures (in receivership), loaded the Russian fighter onto a truck to move it to its premises yesterday, so it could be promoted before being sold. However, Henderson protested and the receiver agreed to give him more time to prove ownership. The jet was then removed from the truck and put back into storage. The MiG was being stored in the former Electrolux building in central city Welles St which Henderson sold to the Christchurch City Council in 2008 for $4.9 million. His flagship company Property Ventures leased the building and stored a variety of items, including antiques, at the site. After Property Ventures went into receivership in March, receiver Grant Thornton – following attempts to find the items' owners – decided to sell all the items not claimed. Turners branch manager Ian Curry said yesterday title to the items was in dispute. "When title is established, we will know whether the items, including the jet, can be auctioned." The receiver's first report shows Property Ventures owes more than $69m to creditors, including $27.42m to South Canterbury Finance. It described Henderson as unco-operative. The Russian-built plane has a colourful history, having been part of the Polish Air Force. Former Television New Zealand boss Neil Roberts bought it on a whim in 1998. Henderson has previously told The Press he acquired the MiG as part of a Far North property deal several years ago. He said it was going to be used to promote a Vodka bar. Yesterday, he said by email he knew "nothing of anyone trying to sell the plane, as you assert, or why they would". "There is no dispute over ownership with anyone." He declined to comment further.
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Post by aeromuzz on Jan 15, 2013 10:49:00 GMT 12
So was this a partnership between Neil Roberts and Paul Jellick? I have never seen any mention of Neil's connection to these two aircraft before. I'm pretty sure that Paul Jellick imported them but ran out of money and eventually, Neil Roberts bought them off him. The 2 seater was originally intended for paying joyrides but was in poor condition so was donated to the Queenstown museum. The single seater, which was in reasonable condition was sold as part of Neil Roberts' estate and has passed through a number of owners as noted above.
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 15, 2013 10:56:32 GMT 12
Ray, I have but unfortunately only via the online archives which are not yet complete.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Jan 15, 2013 20:10:38 GMT 12
I remember seeing a small add in a newspaper a couple of years ago from someone indicating they were interested in importing a 2 seat MiG jet for joy flights in NZ, but I assume that scheme never got off the ground. Seem to remember it was a retired Air New Zealand pilot.
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Post by htbrst on Jan 24, 2013 13:41:22 GMT 12
Ray, I have but unfortunately only via the online archives which are not yet complete. They are getting somewhere slowly though! I've just uploaded the remainder of 1992 and 1993 and started 1994. Here is an article by John King from Feb 1994 which would be the first published issue after the arrival of the MiG based on the dates earlier in the thread: www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/content/briefs-126Also, there is a snippet in the news pages from October 1998 issue about the MiG's future, though it looks like the September 98 issue which is not yet uploaded may have more info - i'll grab it out next time I am near the box. www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/content/news-56
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Post by scrooge on Jan 24, 2013 15:52:06 GMT 12
htbrst- have you picked up the magazines I left for you at Palmerston North?
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Post by htbrst on Jan 24, 2013 17:03:55 GMT 12
htbrst- have you picked up the magazines I left for you at Palmerston North? Yup got them yesterday after a few tries - they are great and very helpful! Will send you a PM later tonight
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Post by scrooge on Jan 26, 2013 18:01:37 GMT 12
ahh, good.
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Post by paulmig21 on Aug 28, 2013 22:21:42 GMT 12
Hi my name is Paul Jellick commonly known a few years ago as The Mig Man. I have lived in Taranaki the last 16 years and have watched with interest the controversy surrounding the Migs. It appears there are many incorrect facts I guess it is time to put the record straight, and this is how it started, both Mig 21's were imported by myself because of a dare from my brother (among other things). Both aircraft were in good operational condition complete with log books and support equipment. At the time of importation they were deemed operational and a threat to national security by our government at the time, which caused me a lot of grief as the way I imported them wasn't strictly kosher. I chose to put the single seat fighter on display in a roadshow which toured New Zealand, this show was extremely popular and was well received. The two seater I chose to start the process through civil aviation to bring upto spec as a fly able fighter jet. I employed a Russian aircraft engineer and spent a considerable amount of money on the process, it became apparent to me that although I had a very enthusiastic civil aviation inspector with his heart in the right place the powers above and beyond him would make the jet a fly able option never happen. So I pulled the plug and walked away, to clarify any suggestions that I went broke or was in partnership with any other person I was the only owner at the time I chose to sell both Mig jets to Neil Roberts as red tape and government interference in my personal and business life had become too much to bear and that is why it has been 16 years since I Have made any comments what so ever. I still have a strong passion for the Migs. Feel free to comment and ask any questions as I am more than happy to set the record straight. I have pursued other passions and built an American Chopper from ground up and ride on a regular basis. Life is for living, enjoy!
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Post by skyhawkdon on Aug 29, 2013 8:22:12 GMT 12
Hi Paul and welcome to the forum. Thanks for the background on your Migs. I'm sure everyone here would like to hear more about how you acquired them.
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Aug 29, 2013 8:29:34 GMT 12
Thanks for taking the time to respond to this thread Paul.
Welcome on board also.
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Post by delticman on Aug 29, 2013 10:04:58 GMT 12
Thanks for that information Paul. I have a friend in the UK who is a Polish Aircraft Historian and has always been after information, so he says thanks as well.
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