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Post by aeromuzz on Aug 29, 2013 15:23:49 GMT 12
It appears there are many incorrect facts I guess it is time to put the record straight I'm happy to be corrected......I only said exactly what I was told by others so as not to bend the truth any further than it had already been bent!
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Post by suthg on Aug 29, 2013 17:29:27 GMT 12
Paul - welcome along from me too. I guess you still have an interest in aviation, although the purchase and importation was from a dare - that must be a great story in itself! That is so annoying and sad that the powers that be had scuttled your passion and your livelihood too to some extent. Have you had any involvement previously in flying or planes at all? Military? Still it is your story and we are so thankful you have come forward to clarify the early years in NZ of these two fabulous aircraft.
Graeme
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Post by smithy on Aug 29, 2013 17:58:13 GMT 12
Big welcome from me too and I as well would love to hear more of your stories about the MiGs.
I'd love to know what the gas bill for an hour's flight would be for one of those!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Aug 29, 2013 19:59:58 GMT 12
Big welcome from me too and I as well would love to hear more of your stories about the MiGs. I'd love to know what the gas bill for an hour's flight would be for one of those! I drive locomotives that burn through five litres of diesel per minute (a litre every twelve seconds) at full power. But I imagine that would be like a mere miniscule drip compared to fuel gushing into a Mig21 engine.
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Post by beagle on Aug 29, 2013 20:12:00 GMT 12
hi paul. yay, finally someone to set the story straight. one question. was it your aircraft, that an RNZAF S&S tradesman painted the serial number on etc for you.
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Post by smithy on Aug 30, 2013 0:25:44 GMT 12
Big welcome from me too and I as well would love to hear more of your stories about the MiGs. I'd love to know what the gas bill for an hour's flight would be for one of those! I drive locomotives that burn through five litres of diesel per minute (a litre every twelve seconds) at full power. But I imagine that would be like a mere miniscule drip compared to fuel gushing into a Mig21 engine. Must be good fun driving those locos. I'm reading "Fighter Pilot" by Serge Tucker at the mo, who flew Hornets in the RAAF and he states that it was $75,000 an hour to fly them (back in the 90s). Don't know how much of that is fuel but I'd imagine it'd be a substantial amount. A blow torch like the MiG must chug through the gas as well.
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Post by lumpy on Aug 30, 2013 7:21:37 GMT 12
I'm reading "Fighter Pilot" by Serge Tucker at the mo, who flew Hornets in the RAAF and he states that it was $75,000 an hour to fly them (back in the 90s). Don't know how much of that is fuel but I'd imagine it'd be a substantial amount. A blow torch like the MiG must chug through the gas as well. A top fuel dragster can burn as much as 1 1/2 gallons of fuel per second on full throttle , not cheap stuff like jet fuel - but nitromethane etc . A single run down the track ( if nothing goes wrong or breaks ) will cost about $1000 per second !( that includes maintaince that is done every run ). Sure , a run only lasts 4-5 seconds , but they make jets look real cheap if you work it out per hour .
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Post by ZacYates on Aug 30, 2013 8:44:21 GMT 12
Glad to see you here Paul, it must have been a fascinating exercise - albeit ultimately disappointing - and it's great to finally hear about it first-hand.
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Post by ngatimozart on Aug 30, 2013 19:29:08 GMT 12
Hi Paul, welcome aboard. Thanks for your post and thanks for bring the Migs to NZ. I used to drive past the one in Lichfield St, Christchurch pre earthquake, quite often and enjoyed looking at it. I have always wanted to see one in the air. However bureaucrats do have a habit of buggering things up especially something out of the ordinary.
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Post by hardyakka on Aug 30, 2013 21:13:31 GMT 12
The MiG 21 was kinda cool. They had a Fishbed at Oshkosh in 2010 They did fly it during the airshow, but kept it up so high that I could only get very bad photos of it. They had it flying a racetrack pattern with a number of other jets. Fastest was highest and slowest was lowest so the MiG was always way ahead of the others but almost too high to be viewable. So despite all the bad things you hear about the American FAA, they found a way to get a "goddamned-commie-pinko" supersonic fighter airborne in civilian hands. I guess they are more used to handling fast jets in American airspace. It's a real pity Paul didn't have as much luck in NZ. I'm sure we would have found a suitable display pilot would could bring it down low and fast in a proper display for better viewing opportunities. I'm sure any sonic boom would be purely accidental...
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Post by baronbeeza on Aug 30, 2013 22:20:55 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 2, 2013 15:31:01 GMT 12
Welcome to the forum Paul. As we no longer seem to have any national security that could possibly be threatened by a warbird Mig, perhaps it's time to have another go?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 2, 2013 15:31:52 GMT 12
Did you ever do engine runs on either aircraft in NZ?
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Post by camjellick on Aug 21, 2015 22:53:07 GMT 12
Very cool pics.. Brings back memories from when "dad" Paul jellick use to own them two. Havnt got many pics of this since then.
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Post by jobocks on Apr 19, 2016 10:13:01 GMT 12
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Post by jobocks on Apr 19, 2016 15:43:12 GMT 12
I'm currently in the building with the 8008 Mig 21. It's a gaming center and seals company.
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 20, 2016 13:04:13 GMT 12
I visted the Wanaka Toy & Transport Museum whilst at the airshow and was quite disappointed with the state of the aircraft; almost all are rotting away with little care shown to their storage and upkeep, in particular the aircraft in the domed shed, the Lodestar, Prentice, Auster, Dove and An-2, jammed in among vehicles so tightly and covered in bird s**t and dust. Very poor. The MiG is suffering from vandalism and corrosion sitting outdoors, as are the other outside aircraft, although they've painted the Canberra, which is something I guess.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 20, 2016 14:06:56 GMT 12
That Lodestar is an absolute bloody disgrace.
When you consider that it used to be a chicken coop, and was rescued, beautifully restored and returned to the air, and the fact that it FLEW into Wanaka…
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 21, 2016 0:22:45 GMT 12
Yes indeed. I was slightly appalled at the state of it and the other aircraft in that hangar.
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Post by nuuumannn on Sept 2, 2016 11:30:18 GMT 12
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