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Post by hardyakka on Apr 26, 2015 21:16:37 GMT 12
Common/Commercial Off The Shelf. Means no special purpose or custom parts required.
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Post by frankly on Apr 26, 2015 22:42:47 GMT 12
Commercial-Off-The-Shelf
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 27, 2015 10:13:37 GMT 12
Thanks.
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 27, 2015 10:26:47 GMT 12
I may be completely wrong in this but I thought there was one (possibly two) going to end up at Ohakea with one retained airworthy for historical purposes.... maybe just too much Speights that day. Hopefully it won't be like our Mirages........ They did keep a few but went for a song really.I remember the rows of Matra missiles still sitting in the stores depot at Dubbo after the rest of the inventory all went to Pakistan as war reserve machines
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Post by raymond on Apr 27, 2015 19:02:34 GMT 12
At CF15 a crewman indicated a couple of airframes to Wigram for the museum and one to the Army Museum and the rest to be flicked off
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 27, 2015 20:00:22 GMT 12
Ando, you did hear that, the RNZAF's commentator even stated during the display at Omaka that they hoped this would happen. But an actual No. 3 Squadron member who works at the sharp end (and is a member of this forum I might add) indicated how it's virtually impossible as they are never going to have the funding to retain current crews and current ground crews to maintain them. They have enough trouble finding the budget and maintain the expertise to keep the NH90's operational with full crews (which they do not have at the moment!) Sadly the good old days are gone.
I watched 'Skyfall' again this rainy afternoon and 'M' gives a Tennyson quote that resonated with the current RNZAF situation I thought:
Though much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Ulysses - Lord Alfred Tennyson (1809-1892)
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Post by noooby on Apr 28, 2015 18:05:49 GMT 12
Are they allowed to sell the Huey's? When I was on 3, we tried to sell off some Sioux parts, but the US DoD wouldn't let us, so the parts were destroyed. The fine print in the sales contract says that you can only sell US sourced aircraft with permission from us DoD and in 1993, that wasn't happening!
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 5, 2015 21:03:46 GMT 12
So it seems from what David Watmuff said on Radio New Zealand this afternoon the Air Force Museum of New Zealand will be receiving NZ3801 (the first Iroquois) and NZ3808 (the Orange Roughy). A third aircraft is heading to the National Army Museum at Waiouru, The rest will be sold.
I wonder if Wigram will then dispose of their existing non-RNZAF example, although they have not ditched their non-RNZAF Skyhawk so maybe they will end up with three in the collection?
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Post by saratoga on May 5, 2015 21:18:28 GMT 12
I believe the non RNZAF huey was gifted conditional on it never flying and for the RNZAF museum only.
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Post by hamfists on May 5, 2015 22:40:30 GMT 12
Why don't you think civilians could maintain a couple of hueys?! I worked for a company that runs a couple of bell 412's..twice as many engines..all the med and rescue gear..pay crew men and pilots etc..and shock horror..had to run efficiently and cost effectively and under budget!
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 6, 2015 2:24:49 GMT 12
I think you have misconstrued what Saratoga wrote, Hamfists. He's talking about the Iroquois already in the Air Force Museum of New Zealand
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 12:16:10 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 6, 2015 12:28:15 GMT 12
I think you need to make those photos public in your account Tim, as they don't show up for the rest of us here.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 12:35:26 GMT 12
Sorry Dave
I hope they work now
My Apologies!!!
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Post by Calum on May 6, 2015 14:09:13 GMT 12
nope, still no can see
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 14:46:59 GMT 12
Ok I have tried again, sorry folks.
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Post by beagle on May 11, 2015 16:03:41 GMT 12
May 30th is the fleet's retirement date. just saw a quote on the rnzaf museum facebook page saying 1st July end of operation for UH1H
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 11, 2015 16:34:06 GMT 12
Yes, I have also seen this date elsewhere, so May 30th is the official farewell, 1st of July seems to be the operational end.
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Post by isc on May 16, 2015 1:20:30 GMT 12
After hearing of the helicopter crash in Nepal the other day, I looked up the use of Hueys by the Marines, and see that they use the UH-1Y Venom, or Super Huey, they went into production in 2008, havea 4 blade rotor, and twin engines, and a glass cocpit, they are slightly longer(21 inches). Also saw that the USAF are withdrawing their UH-1Hs over the next few years (875 of them), and replacing them with the UH-72. Just a bit of what's happening to the Huey else where. isc
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Post by beagle on May 16, 2015 13:14:44 GMT 12
I thought the yanks had got rid of their singles years ago
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