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Post by komata on Sept 3, 2015 12:00:19 GMT 12
I have been told that at some time in the late 1950's at least one example of the US Navy's North American AJ 'Savage' bomber made its appearance in New Zealand; possibly in connection with Operation Deep Freeze, or the American A-bomb tests in the Pacific, although its role in the latter tests is unknown (data collection, perhaps?).
Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks.
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Post by shorty on Sept 4, 2015 7:59:27 GMT 12
I was under the impression that three came here on a mapping mission, based at Ohakea. I may have a photo somewhere .
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Post by camtech on Sept 4, 2015 8:19:21 GMT 12
I was under the impression that three came here on a mapping mission, based at Ohakea. I may have a photo somewhere . Thanks for saving the brain cells Shorty - I am sure that Savages have been here, but can't find any reference so far. May have to resort to old JAHSNZ journals. As they were big and clumsy for carrier operation - manual wing and tail folding, they got used for photo recce work.
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 4, 2015 9:10:00 GMT 12
I thought we talked about them here a few months ago. You have searched the forum, right?
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Post by scrooge on Sept 4, 2015 9:37:55 GMT 12
I recall a discussion on them too. Bit longer ago than a few months though- maybe a year+
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Post by scrooge on Sept 4, 2015 9:45:37 GMT 12
This from a quick google of this forum: rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/7698/rnzaf-exercise-database#page=2"Post by shorty on 31 Oct 2008 at 17:10 A couple of much earlier ones were "Coastcrawl" with NA Savages, "Handclasp" with F-84s and KB 50s and, of course, the one that started this "Triad" Don't forget Exercise "Silver Bullet" the Vampires farewell tour of NZ and Exercise "Pluto" when Freighters were used to ferry cars over Cook Strait during a Ferry strike." and "Post by Dave Homewood on 3 Nov 2008 at 14:26 Shorty, was the RNZAF actually involved in Coastcrawl, and was it an exercise or an operation? If I recall rightly this was an operation performed by US aircraft alone to photograph and map NZ's coast, wasn't it?"
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 4, 2015 10:00:56 GMT 12
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Post by komata on Sept 4, 2015 11:16:15 GMT 12
Thank you gentlemen; my informant was correct. FWIW, I DID do a search under both 'AJ 'Savage' and 'North American 'Savage', but found nothing, hence the question. No idea why it didn't produce the info'; perhaps I wasn't asking in the correct way?
Again, thanks.
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Post by scrooge on Sept 4, 2015 11:38:30 GMT 12
Funnily enough I thought there was a photo in the Graeme Cossgrove collection but it didn't show in my google search- 2 1/2 years ago, a bit more than my guess.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 4, 2015 13:45:45 GMT 12
I don't recall a photo in that collection Andrew. But I am sure i have seen a photo of one or more at one of the airshows or open days while they were visiting.
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Post by dakman on Sept 4, 2015 14:43:28 GMT 12
Well guys I can confirm one,aircraft nose code 26. Tail number SS 128051. Hope this helps.
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Post by baronbeeza on Sept 4, 2015 15:45:18 GMT 12
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Post by ErrolC on Sept 4, 2015 17:48:32 GMT 12
I don't recall a photo in that collection Andrew. But I am sure i have seen a photo of one or more at one of the airshows or open days while they were visiting. It's a few posts above the post I linked to earlier.
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Post by gungadin1 on Sept 11, 2015 9:20:42 GMT 12
II have recollection of "Savage" aircraft being in NZ in the late 1950's it did a low bevel fluky down the Hutt Valley. I guess for a fly past over Wgtn However, the most interesting part of this story was whilst I was member of 2 Sqn ATC at Petone there was stored in a shed a large jet engine which was apparently out of a "Savage" and w Had been abandoned by the Americans. It was still there when I left the ATC in 1963
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 11, 2015 13:10:52 GMT 12
I wonder if that engine is still around now?
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Post by komata on Sept 12, 2015 14:22:16 GMT 12
FWIW, IF it was actually from an AJ, the engine would be a J-33; there can't be too many of those in the Wellington area.
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Post by isc on Sept 12, 2015 21:18:06 GMT 12
Anyone got a Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star. It's a developmemt of the DH Goblin. isc
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neilmacbuk
Leading Aircraftman
I WISH TO UPLOAD A PHOTO OF THE SAVAGE TO RNZAF.PROBOARDS.HOW DO I DO THIS PLZ?
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Post by neilmacbuk on Nov 5, 2016 15:24:14 GMT 12
I WILL TRY TO UPLOAD A SHOT OF THE AJ SAVAGE (TAKEN HILST I WAS IN THE NZ ATC), STATIONED AT OHAKEA SOMETIME BETWEEN LATE 1950'S-EARLY 1960?
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neilmacbuk
Leading Aircraftman
I WISH TO UPLOAD A PHOTO OF THE SAVAGE TO RNZAF.PROBOARDS.HOW DO I DO THIS PLZ?
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Post by neilmacbuk on Nov 5, 2016 18:26:51 GMT 12
Well guys I can confirm one,aircraft nose code 26. Tail number SS 128051. Hope this helps. I can confirm another aircraft; Nose code "21",tail # "129185" and another plane with the tail-code,last 5 figures; "SS _34073,perhaps the missing number could be "1"?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 6, 2016 9:27:09 GMT 12
I WILL TRY TO UPLOAD A SHOT OF THE AJ SAVAGE (TAKEN HILST I WAS IN THE NZ ATC), STATIONED AT OHAKEA SOMETIME BETWEEN LATE 1950'S-EARLY 1960? I WISH TO UPLOAD A PHOTO OF THE SAVAGE TO RNZAF.PROBOARDS.HOW DO I DO THIS PLZ?See photo loading instructions at rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/21596/post-photos-forum-2014-version
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