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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 2, 2018 21:42:02 GMT 12
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Post by agalbraith on Feb 2, 2018 21:47:33 GMT 12
Yes I was thinking the same thing myself this arvo Dave.....Not good for the locals, or the Aircraft there!
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Post by delticman on Feb 2, 2018 21:49:46 GMT 12
Waitangi is on the South Western side of the island, the Sunderland is at the north eastern tip of the island. Hope is for a wind change as there is little resources to fight a fire like that but I guess the Convairs will be sent into action with resources from New Zealand.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 2, 2018 22:08:19 GMT 12
Dreadful for the islanders no matter what.
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Post by planewriting on Feb 2, 2018 22:29:47 GMT 12
Apparently the Tauranga DC-3 scenic flights planned for Sunday have had to be cancelled. The affected passengers are being rescheduled on other flights. The cancellation frees up the air crew to fly other schedules in the Air Chathams network so that there will be maximum crew availability to take aircraft with personnel and equipment over from New Zealand to the Chathams. I understand the DC-3 will not be involved, only aircrew.
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Post by denysjones on Jan 5, 2019 18:54:30 GMT 12
Unashamed thread resurrection here. Given what we see here flic.kr/s/aHsmjEYs87there is no preservation future for BXI here. However it seems that all attempts to date from us to establish communications with the islanders come to naught, as in personal contact details we've been given. Is there anyone here who has close contacts, as in family or whatever, on the islands that can help us get meaningful traction to enable us to get bits off BXI for BXG because it has to the grossly apparent BXI is going to rot away, and quickly given the nature of the environment where she lies. Even in these photos we can see items we need but equally see deterioration in others, compared with other historic images (look at the condition of the properllor blades), that don't augur well for the longevity of them all. thanks
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 5, 2019 19:12:13 GMT 12
If it helps Denys, Ray Deerness is on the Chathams right now i believe.
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Post by delticman on Jan 5, 2019 20:47:44 GMT 12
Unashamed thread resurrection here. Given what we see here flic.kr/s/aHsmjEYs87there is no preservation future for BXI here. However it seems that all attempts to date from us to establish communications with the islanders come to naught, as in personal contact details we've been given. Is there anyone here who has close contacts, as in family or whatever, on the islands that can help us get meaningful traction to enable us to get bits off BXI for BXG because it has to the grossly apparent BXI is going to rot away, and quickly given the nature of the environment where she lies. Even in these photos we can see items we need but equally see deterioration in others, compared with other historic images (look at the condition of the properllor blades), that don't augur well for the longevity of them all. thanks Just back from the Kaiangaroa Fishing Club, an absolutely terrific meal. You should have posted24 hours ago. Had a quick visit to the Sunderland. No rear fuselage, pity. The owner was not there and there has been no attempt to move the Friendship inside. There is plenty of room for it. The one thing that all kiwis should do is visit the Chathams at least once. Home tomorrow. Ray
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Post by denysjones on Jan 6, 2019 8:22:46 GMT 12
Thanks Ray, just my luck!
BXI was originally in the shed with the Sunderland but once Gary Downes, the Air Chathams pilot, left the scene she was cast outside and that must be about 2 years ago now.
cheers
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Post by l29 on Jan 6, 2019 10:19:26 GMT 12
how on earth they let that go to the islands is beyond belief. It was never going to end well.
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Post by agalbraith on Jan 6, 2019 13:40:19 GMT 12
Is the rest of the Sunderland there, wings etc? Looks like I can see a rear fuse section sitting in amongst BXI's parts
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Post by agile on Jan 8, 2019 7:08:20 GMT 12
Is the rest of the Sunderland there, wings etc? Looks like I can see a rear fuse section sitting in amongst BXI's parts If you look back at the original pics on page 1 of the thread there isn't much wing structure in evidence. It's so frustrating seeing all the F-27 stuff fizzing away out there. I'll just have to sharpen my pencil the next time a job in the Chats comes in for pricing (last time I was there I didn't make it out to the 'museum') although even then I wonder if they would let any of this stuff return to the mainland.
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Post by agalbraith on Jan 8, 2019 12:06:31 GMT 12
Is the rest of the Sunderland there, wings etc? Looks like I can see a rear fuse section sitting in amongst BXI's parts If you look back at the original pics on page 1 of the thread there isn't much wing structure in evidence. It's so frustrating seeing all the F-27 stuff fizzing away out there. I'll just have to sharpen my pencil the next time a job in the Chats comes in for pricing (last time I was there I didn't make it out to the 'museum') although even then I wonder if they would let any of this stuff return to the mainland. Yes mate, heartbreaking indeed. I wonder how much $$ a flight to the Chatham's is from here in Chch, and who would be best to talk too? I know my heart went into my mouth when they had that massive fire over there last year.
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Post by agile on Jan 8, 2019 16:18:45 GMT 12
Yes mate, heartbreaking indeed. I wonder how much $$ a flight to the Chatham's is from here in Chch, and who would be best to talk too? I know my heart went into my mouth when they had that massive fire over there last year. Flights over and back are about $700 - $1000 return, noting that they only come into Chch once a week. We flew out of Chch and back into Welly, then back to Chch on ANZ. Dunno who you'd talk to - Denys has tried a number of avenues of investigation nd had no response.
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Post by isc on Jan 8, 2019 22:40:40 GMT 12
It seems that the Sunderland, and the F-27 are owned by a trust. One person who owned the Sunderland, and was in communication with the Museum at Wigram was a Mr Jim Muirson, I think he wanted some parts that went to Wigram. It seems from what I read that just about every thing on the Chathams is tied up in a trust. isc
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Post by harrysone on Jan 9, 2019 12:46:19 GMT 12
BXI looks a WHOLE LOT WORSE that when I saw it in November 2016! Back then the props that are outside were still plastic wrapped and pristine...It appears that the elements (particularly the briny atmosphere) have taken their toll with her!
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Post by denysjones on Jan 9, 2019 18:16:54 GMT 12
isc,
Jim was one of the no response approaches I made, having been directed to him by the Chatham's tourism website folks.
I've had several other people comment on the standard method of ownership that seems to be in vogue over there and equally tell me that they doubt that anything is likely to leave the islands either.
FTR I've also struck out with Gary Downes, the Air Chathams pilot who was the orchestrator of taking BXI there, who I have been told has left the islands presumably for a job elsewhere but now his emails don't get answered either.
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Post by emron on Feb 9, 2019 14:34:00 GMT 12
This is probably old news for many who are well familiar with the Chatham Islands but for any like me who might benefit from a geography lesson: When Sunderland NZ4111 sank in the Te Whanga Lagoon in 1959 it was just offshore from the flying boat base at Point Waikato. Waikato Bay is midway down the western side of the lagoon, south of the present airport and not far from Waitangi. The RNZAF quickly salvaged anything of value but the hulk lay part-submerged in the lagoon for some while before being hauled ashore on the beach alongside the air base jetty. From there I had assumed that it was dispersed amongst neighbouring properties but instead, the Weisner brothers had won the bid for it’s disposal and proceeded to cut it into truckload size pieces that they carted off to their farm at Kaingaroa on the far side of the lagoon, at the north eastern tip of the island. Although some smaller parts may have been left for the locals, the majority of the airframe soon ended up on the Weisner property where these parts remain today, now the Muirson farm “Mission Station’.
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Post by denysjones on Jul 27, 2019 21:45:13 GMT 12
shh shh Something happening here, all secret squirrel at the moment but closer to things than in Brazil. oops best make sure we're on the same page....we're talking BXI here folks
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Post by kiwi285 on Jul 29, 2019 8:43:37 GMT 12
Sounds interesting Denys. Keep us in the loop.
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