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Post by alanw on Dec 9, 2017 14:16:56 GMT 12
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Post by agalbraith on Dec 10, 2017 6:57:50 GMT 12
Hi Alan, I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that is a cooling duct that sits in behind the flap on the side. It appears to have just been placed on top there by someone. The round section is where I believe it attaches to the cooler(?) outlet and the square piece is where the door is attached in the side cowl...not sure I made sense there, but essentially I think it has just been chucked up on top there temporarily.
Baz or Paul Harrison will be able to be more definitive...or put me straight
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Post by alanw on Dec 10, 2017 8:46:33 GMT 12
Hi Alan, I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that is a cooling duct that sits in behind the flap on the side. It appears to have just been placed on top there by someone. The round section is where I believe it attaches to the cooler(?) outlet and the square piece is where the door is attached in the side cowl...not sure I made sense there, but essentially I think it has just been chucked up on top there temporarily. Baz or Paul Harrison will be able to be more definitive...or put me straight Hi Anthony That makes perfect sense to me and, gives me an idea of what the duct looks like. Though manufacturing that in 1/32 scale will be a challenge. Thank you so much!!! Kind regards Alan
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Post by baz62 on Dec 10, 2017 14:11:12 GMT 12
Jeez Anthony you're slipping! Too much Auster contamination as I picked what it was straight away! Ok on the left of the shot is the intake for the oil cooler (and we are talking the left hand one) The oilcooler sits into the end of it so if it was in position now you couldn't see the object of interest. And the object of interest is the outlet end of the oilcooler which includes the oilcooler flap. And here is a photo of the same side on NZ2504 taken in 1980. 019 by Barry Tod, on Flickr So on the right is the object you can see lying in NZ2527s engine bay. The two areas of rust or remains of tape on the engine mount of NZ2527 are where the clamps attached that held the oilcooler in place.
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Post by agalbraith on Dec 10, 2017 20:28:34 GMT 12
Smarty....
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Dec 10, 2017 20:53:10 GMT 12
...arse Anthony, arse!
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Post by alanw on Dec 11, 2017 16:17:24 GMT 12
Jeez Anthony you're slipping! Too much Auster contamination as I picked what it was straight away! Ok on the left of the shot is the intake for the oil cooler (and we are talking the left hand one) The oilcooler sits into the end of it so if it was in position now you couldn't see the object of interest. And the object of interest is the outlet end of the oilcooler which includes the oilcooler flap. And here is a photo of the same side on NZ2504 taken in 1980. 019 by Barry Tod, on Flickr So on the right is the object you can see lying in NZ2527s engine bay. The two areas of rust or remains of tape on the engine mount of NZ2527 are where the clamps attached that held the oilcooler in place. Hi Baz, Thank you so much for the photo and explanation!!! Very much appreciated. Would it be Okay by you if I used your photo to illustrate in my build Work In Progress (with all acknowledgements/permissions to you) I'll most likely do one in the Model part of the forum as well as Britmodeller Thanks/regards Alan
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Post by tbf25o4 on Dec 12, 2017 8:13:59 GMT 12
Good photo Baz and clearly shows the arrangement for the cooler and flap which was a different configuration to the later TBM aircraft
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Post by agalbraith on Dec 12, 2017 11:22:31 GMT 12
Right you are mate....I ment to add that bit in! LOL
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Post by baz62 on Dec 12, 2017 15:49:40 GMT 12
Jeez Anthony you're slipping! Too much Auster contamination as I picked what it was straight away! Ok on the left of the shot is the intake for the oil cooler (and we are talking the left hand one) The oilcooler sits into the end of it so if it was in position now you couldn't see the object of interest. And the object of interest is the outlet end of the oilcooler which includes the oilcooler flap. And here is a photo of the same side on NZ2504 taken in 1980. 019 by Barry Tod, on Flickr So on the right is the object you can see lying in NZ2527s engine bay. The two areas of rust or remains of tape on the engine mount of NZ2527 are where the clamps attached that held the oilcooler in place. Hi Baz, Thank you so much for the photo and explanation!!! Very much appreciated. Would it be Okay by you if I used your photo to illustrate in my build Work In Progress (with all acknowledgements/permissions to you) I'll most likely do one in the Model part of the forum as well as Britmodeller Thanks/regards Alan Yes feel free Alan.
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Post by baz62 on Dec 12, 2017 15:51:29 GMT 12
Right you are mate....I ment to add that bit in! LOL Christmas card list.............deleted! Take that Aholes!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 12, 2017 15:54:32 GMT 12
But Baz, that was the only two names on your list.
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Post by baz62 on Dec 12, 2017 16:31:30 GMT 12
different configuration to the later TBM aircraft Shame my camera was so crappy......probably made in North Korea by blind nuns! Yes the TBM-3 did away with the two oil coolers from the sides and had a large single one placed underneath the engine. This photo of a TBM-3 shows very clearly the new cowl flap and cowling arrangement with a row of cowl flaps starting from one side and running across and over to the other side in line with the exhaust outlets. The oilcooler is the oval object below and slightly behind the engine. TBM-3 by Barry Tod, on Flickr I always liked the look of the early TBF andTBM as the nose has a more slender profile while the TBM-3 is a bit squared off. This photo of NZ2504 (credit Dave McDonald) shows the relatively few cowl flaps with only one on each side near the top and two side by side underneath. And just forward of the wing leading edge is the port oilcooler flap. avenger-24336-3 by Barry Tod, on Flickr I wonder with the slightly more powerful R2600 the -3 had and possibly reports of cooling issues (Not that I've seen any) they wanted more cooling capability? I wonder about putting the oilcooler underneath since you would think it would be more vulnerable to AA fire. Did it have any armour underneath? Brendon Deere would be the one to ask having a TBM-3E.
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Post by baz62 on Dec 12, 2017 16:34:07 GMT 12
But Baz, that was the only two names on your list. Oh ho we're on fire today.....Can you ban the owner of a forum?
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Dec 12, 2017 18:29:48 GMT 12
But Baz, that was the only two names on your list. Well that's handy. It will fit right into his Austere(!) budget...
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Post by baz62 on Dec 12, 2017 20:39:15 GMT 12
But Baz, that was the only two names on your list. Well that's handy. It will fit right into his Austere(!) budget...
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Post by agalbraith on Dec 13, 2017 6:38:44 GMT 12
Hahahah..............
Hey, don't go blaming poor old blind nuns for your crappy photography..LOL
Interesting discussion none the less...
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 21, 2017 18:25:29 GMT 12
Interesting photograph…… ……however, I suspect it is not quite what it seems. Click on the photograph to view the source and posted comments. EDIT: I just tidied the URL up a bit. If it still doesn't open to the source, then it must be a location you need to be signed-in to.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 21, 2017 18:32:36 GMT 12
The link doesn't work, but I have seen that posted here before. I think it may have been Herr Red Baron who masterminded this Photoshop?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 21, 2017 19:27:20 GMT 12
It was certainly never like that in real life. Ardmore 7Jul1963
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