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Post by rone on Feb 14, 2019 11:49:20 GMT 12
I have just now read on MSN that a developer near RNZAF Base Whenuapai is crying out that engine testing noise from the base is preventing 440 houses being built. Same old story, they knew it was an operational airfield when they bought the land. Now they are having the planning rules looked at again so their houses can be built. A local has pointed out they are used to the noise, it is what they appreciate about living there. Seems like the same old story, never mind the base has been there for many moonbeams, the new boy in town wants his way so he can make dollars. Watch this space, let's see who wins in the end.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 14, 2019 12:03:44 GMT 12
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Post by TS on Feb 14, 2019 14:42:52 GMT 12
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Post by saratoga on Feb 14, 2019 17:46:03 GMT 12
Guess he never considered why no one had built houses there before....
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Post by machina on Feb 14, 2019 20:43:32 GMT 12
Simple tell the developer he F@^KED UP. Then tell him to F*%K OFF. Or the RNZAF could go electric...Nice and GREEN...     They could go Electric...English Electric Lightning. Won't be able to hear the whining over those  |
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Post by isc on Feb 14, 2019 21:36:27 GMT 12
I can remember doing a post overhaul test run(5hrs I think) on a Continental IO-470K in the middle of the night at Dunedin airport back in the mid 1960s we got directed (by airport management) to the north end of the strip, I think the telephone was making more noise than the engine(only running at idle at that time). We packed up and went to the other end, no trouble. The engine was for C-185 ZK-CFI.
If people want to live by an airbase, what do they expect, If the Air Force actually got busy they could have 24/7 activity, Oh what fun. isc
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Post by rone on Feb 15, 2019 9:27:40 GMT 12
For sure, Auckland is not the place it used to be. In years to come, when everywhere is wall to wall houses and no open spaces, let alone airfields, who in their right mind would want to live, let alone visit Auckland.
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 15, 2019 9:36:57 GMT 12
You've just implied that a third of the population is insane. Rather than accepting that people make decisions that suit them (for reasons that may or may not be good).
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Post by lumpy on Feb 15, 2019 11:35:09 GMT 12
I still remember the thundering sound that echoed around the whole of the Wairau valley on a calm evening , everytime the airforce had a J52 ( Skyhawk engine ) on the test stand at Woodbourne . I live about 8kms away and it sounded like it was just up the street !
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Post by pjw4118 on Feb 15, 2019 12:52:09 GMT 12
The funny thing is that all of the new houses on the northern boundary had caveats on the titles regarding airbase noise plus the "pollution from the next door sawmill , which has also been there since day dot. I am told that these houses , a joint NZDF effort , are double glazed and insulated .
So if you choose to build next to an airfield expect aeroplane type noises , and the sawmill will also be steamy , noisey and dusty. But dont bet this developer will lose , as proof of insanity and a complete lack of common sense is a required part of all CV's for Auckland City Council employment.
I think I might build a house next to the 8 lane inner western motorway and complain about road noise , and have a good chance of banning cars from that road .And just maybe get a billion dollar underground railway to nowhere , for my ego.
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Post by starr on Feb 15, 2019 13:37:05 GMT 12
I was brought up on a property at the end of a runway (Ardmore). The noise never worried us except for the Harvards when they went past. Only aircraft to make the dishes on the table rattle. That was really only for a few seconds. From the early 60s, when light aircraft training started there in earnest, the only time we really took any notice of the noise was when it stopped in the case of practice loss of engine power on take off. Always relieved when the noise started again. Too many instances of people complaining about noise and other problems when they move in to an area where there has been an activity going on for years. Take a look on Facebook for something Mike Cronin shared recently called Welcome. Makes a lot of sense.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 16, 2019 11:01:38 GMT 12
The madness of building houses right up against aerodromes, airfields and airports is getting totally out of had. What has happened in the past couple of years at Ardmore is criminal, especially the hundreds of KiwiBuild shitboxes they are cramming onto the former Papakura Army Camp now. And when I was at North Shore Airfield the other week I was stunned how the council has allowed houses to be built right up to the fence overlooking the runway. I cannot understand why legislation was not put in place years ago that prevented any building so close to an airfield to retain the buffer zone and safety margin. The government and councils are pretty much neglecting safety needs.
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Post by rone on Feb 16, 2019 11:37:21 GMT 12
With regards to the comment about my last post about Auckland. The current makeup of that fine city's population reminds me of most Australian cities 30 or so years ago, when the most popular game in town was 'spot the Aussie'. Back here it is fast becoming 'spot a Kiwi'.
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Post by frankly on Feb 16, 2019 16:44:24 GMT 12
It might be ridiculous, but encroachment is only going to get worse. You'd have to its days are numbered.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 16, 2019 17:15:09 GMT 12
It's happening around all out airfields frankly, so legislation needs to be enacted to stop it.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 17, 2019 12:54:04 GMT 12
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Post by isc on Feb 17, 2019 23:24:10 GMT 12
The people of Christchurch thought they would be relieved from noise when the Harvards went from Wigram, then along came the Airtrainers. isc
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Post by kiwirob on Feb 18, 2019 6:44:52 GMT 12
It's been in private hands for 150 years, Fletchers can do what they like with it. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Feb 18, 2019 8:18:51 GMT 12
NO no, you do not understand.
When somebody wants to build something there will always be those who oppose that, based on cultural, ecological, traditional or political grounds.
No minority anywhere must ever be offended so that plan collapses - or spends years fighting through the courts making the lawyers rich.
Then we wonder why we have expensive housing.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 18, 2019 8:53:08 GMT 12
My point is building more housing estates right next to an airport, that is all my comment was about.
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