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Post by rone on Feb 18, 2019 17:05:35 GMT 12
That land at Mangere, although privately owned for 150years, has been farmed continuously by descendants of the original families until the second runway was decided on being built. Much of that land under protest has the stone walls built by the original settlers. It is a historic site, not that that bothers Fletchers. Not trying to stir things up but I know that area and the previous owners well. The whole area was designated 'airfield zone' or some such title by the government of the day. The Treaty of Waitangi was ignored I believe, and Fletchers obtained the land. But, when the second runway is built, the to be built houses will be right alongside of it.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Feb 18, 2019 20:06:56 GMT 12
My point is building more housing estates right next to an airport, that is all my comment was about. We are only now beginning to see the cancerous signs of what the UK and other parts of Europe have had to deal with for decades. I never thought I would see what is happening in our traditionally aviation-friendly, own-your-own-slice-of-land, play-in-the-great-outdoors Godzone... "``Makes you spit, doesn't it?'' ``Yes,'' agreed Marvin with feeling. ``Hell that makes me angry,'' bellowed the machine, ``think I'll smash that wall down!'' (credit to the late Douglas Adams)
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Post by Peter Lewis on Feb 18, 2019 20:43:07 GMT 12
Wasn't it Ernest Gann who expounded the theory that all airfields had a large magnet embedded in the center that magnetically attracted homes and industry to come and build around the outskirts?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 18, 2019 20:54:00 GMT 12
Yes, exactly John. We were once a nation of very practical people who would think things through, plan things properly and generally do the right thing.
But now we have adopted all the worst parts of overseas bureaucracy, and combined it with our own home grown melee of bureaucracy... and the future of the country is now in tatters, it's a complete shambles. And we have allowed all the wrong people into power. Our so-called leaders - whether at government or council level on all sides - are mostly just crooks, arseholes, numbskulls and people with a particular whacky axe to grind or gender issue or strange political viewpoint to gain attention with, and to reap personal wealth as they do it. Very few of them are practical, successful people nowadays who are just there to give back to the community.
It's an absolute no brainer to have passed a law stopping the erection of buildings on a threshold of an existing airfield, any and all airfields. There is so much empty land in this country - swathes of useless unproductive countryside as far as the eye can see that could be used for new houses, but no, let's build all the houses on the edge of all the runways. Stupid fokken c&*$s
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Post by madmax on Feb 18, 2019 23:36:18 GMT 12
Dave, what you have described can be summed up in one word, "evolution". And there is no stopping it.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Feb 19, 2019 13:16:50 GMT 12
Dave, what you have described can be summed up in one word, "evolution". And there is no stopping it. I disagree. Devolution.
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Post by pjw4118 on Mar 24, 2019 15:13:42 GMT 12
Regarding Mangere , if you look at the White photo collection the initial site for the new airport seems to have been around Wiri ( which is now built up too ) and the selection of Mangere may have been for the better approaches and it was surrounded by Aucklands market gardens , not houses. The gardens have just about all gone , the prime land covered by houses that are now reaching the end of their planned 50 year lifespan. This push of housing onto agricultural land is being repeated at Pukekohe where some of the regions richest soil is being swamped by brick and stick buildings , all probably with a 50 year lifespan. Planners ,,,there arent any up here !
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Mar 25, 2019 19:19:51 GMT 12
Perhaps we should have an epitaph thread for airfields that are no longer with us...
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