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Post by colford on Jun 8, 2019 9:59:09 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 8, 2019 10:19:44 GMT 12
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Post by isc on Jun 8, 2019 22:58:24 GMT 12
Are you running out of room over there? isc
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 8, 2019 23:12:51 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Jun 9, 2019 10:07:17 GMT 12
Me too. Hope it helps!
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Jun 9, 2019 12:57:40 GMT 12
Signed - wish them all the best, sounds like council stupidity (or greed...) rather than a genuine problem.
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Post by colford on Jun 9, 2019 15:03:21 GMT 12
For the last few years there has been a small group in the local community that despite arriving and settling in the area with the full knowledge the airfield was there, have gone out of their way to raise complaints at multiple levels of Government about the airfield and the aircraft operating from it and around it. All too familiar story. As well, suburban development pressures from Melbourne and the growth of Tyabb as a 'desirable' location, which has put more pressures on there for residential land releases - of course not too far from the existing council owned and operated infrastructure with all the associated costs of extending it to new areas - has seen some interesting 'stuff' going on land development wise. I think the airport really needs to get in the ear of the Victorian State Government Minister for Local Government and the Federal Minister's for Local Government, Regional Development and Transport as a priority.
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Post by markrogers on Jun 9, 2019 20:17:18 GMT 12
I've signed the petition. Looking back through the past here in NZ there have been people opposing airports because of noise, etc, usually these are people who've just moved to a recently bought property close to the airport. There would be some noise, media attention and petitions but, in the end nothing came of them and they just quietly faded away.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2019 20:53:07 GMT 12
But Mark, in the past those campaigns may have faded away because then the councils used a bit of old fashioned common sense and they simply ignored such complaints from the NIMBY's.
However nowadays there are a few factors that make things different. One is, just like government, there seem to be some absolute numb-skulls both voted onto councils and town boards, and absolute plonkers working permanently in their various departments as bureaucrats, who haven't a clue about real life or common sense. ow that has always been the case but they seem to find worse ones year on year. They only see dollar signs and boxes ticked, whilst forgetting the big picture with important factors, like what the majority of people really want. And they're all now indoctrinated in the modern day ethos of pandering to the loudest minority group, the more radical the better, rather than assessing things rationally and making balanced decisions that suit the majority of rate payers. So you only need one or two people to make a hell of a stink about an airport's noise or the planes flying over their house and some back room council Johnny might well decide to make a name for himself and start re-zoning it.
Not only that, the key thing now is councils all make BIG money these days by cutting up big empty plots of land in their electorate to squeeze new housing developments on. It seems to be their core business in most places now,and it's encouraged by the idiots in central government. Many councils have allowed large, densely packed subdivisions to creep right up to airport boundaries and as they are coining it big-time from the developers, the councils love this. Those council Johnnies desire the nice big wads of cash from the developers, plus some backhanders no doubt, and massive amounts of cash from each and every building consent that come into their department. This sort of thing makes bureaucrats look and feel important. They call it "progress" and they tell the people they are enhancing the community they have been given the job to administer. They all look at their maps and see new subdivisions with a big empty field in the middle and wonder why that cannot be re-zoned for hundreds more houses, even if it is an airport or a park.
So don't be so confident hat it might all blow over, because these days the councils are just greedy enough, short-sighted enough and bloody stupid enough to let the NIMBY's win.
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Post by oj on Jun 10, 2019 21:21:32 GMT 12
Well said, that man ...
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