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Post by mit on Apr 22, 2010 5:59:09 GMT 12
Hi there, I'm a little behind the eight ball here, but that is definitely the real photo. It was a formation put together for the hand over between the bluntie's and the macci. Its never been published in NZ (to my knowledge) and I have never seen it but heard about it. As the reason for 1076 over 1015, 1076 was based at Ohakea at the time and 1015 at Wigram therefore a natural choice. As noted the Skyhawk has a high nose attitude, and the Tex and low nose attitude, this is of course a result of the Harvard going flat chat and the A-4 as slow as possible. it worked really well until they dived in for the high speed past. The Harvard stopped (big diskie thing at the front acting like a brake) and the jets accelerated, and over shot the Harvard (apparent very impressive for the cockpit of the Harvard as three jets with every flap and speed brake hanging out shot past) needless to say the didn't do the dive on the day!
Kind Regards Mit
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Post by SEAN on Apr 22, 2010 8:00:07 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 22, 2010 11:19:32 GMT 12
Great photos Sean. Please do not forget to credit them to the Air Force Museum of New Zealand as per the forum's agreement with the RNZAF PRO.
Some of those loads seem huge on the poor old bluntie, no wonder his wings all cracked.
The photo of all the mechs and techs swarming around it reminds me of one of those posed wartime photos wherethey get everyine in site to get in the shot.
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Post by phil on Apr 22, 2010 12:25:07 GMT 12
Please note that almost all those photographs are set ups, blunties never flew with Mk82 Bombs, TERs, or LAU 5003s or Sidewinders.
Also the shot of all the groundies working on the aircraft is posed, you can't refuel and re arm at the same time, that was just for the photo.
As can be seen in the air to air photo, the standard rocket pod was the LAU 5002.
In the ground servicing photo, the modifed PMBR can be seen. This differed from the standard PMBR by having the two centre stations removed to provide ground clearance.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 22, 2010 12:29:33 GMT 12
Cracker shots there Sean! I've not seen any of them before. Love the ones with the Blunty all bombed up with the Skyhawk weapons! Dave - they were mostly just for show - it couldn't fly with them all.
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Post by SEAN on Apr 22, 2010 16:49:55 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 22, 2010 17:13:00 GMT 12
Sorry, I should have used a smiley - I knew they were not actual loads used by the aircraft, it's never get off the deck with those large loads. I've never worked out why Armourers and Photogs like to load up imaginary ordnance loads like this though, it must be to confuse future historians.
What is that last shot about? Is that supposedly all the people who keep the plane flying (including the chef?). Half of them are dressed as army and half as navy. Thank goodness in my time we had proper RNZAF blue uniforms. Is that WAAF wearing shorts??
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Post by phil on Apr 22, 2010 18:33:59 GMT 12
Interesting to see that at least early on the PMBRs were used in their unmodified (US Navy) configuration with all 6 release assemblies.
I assume the shot of 65 with the Jet Provost behind and the worlds supply or ordnance laid out the front is a pre delivery shot, taken at Farnborough perhaps?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 22, 2010 21:19:16 GMT 12
Yes, '65 did display at Farnborough before delivery, wearing its G-xxxx registration
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Post by sqwark2k on Apr 22, 2010 23:04:08 GMT 12
Dave, I've seen more recent RNZAF recruiting type pictures with a representative of each trade involved in keeping the Force going, I think this one is an early version.
Did the RNZAF ever employ the under wing gun packs for the Blunty?? I'm sure I've seen pictures of Saudi or RAF blunties loosing off a few rounds....
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Post by classicman on Apr 23, 2010 13:53:28 GMT 12
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 23, 2010 15:38:59 GMT 12
Interesting photos of the Kahu Skyhawk prototype '05 - if they were taken in 1988 it must have been later in '88?
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Post by classicman on Apr 23, 2010 16:53:59 GMT 12
I guess about December 88 Don. Can't really be more specific (too long ago!). We had just completed a banner tow for the A4 just off the coast by Raumai when these photos were taken.
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Post by phil on Apr 23, 2010 17:29:18 GMT 12
Did the RNZAF ever employ the under wing gun packs for the Blunty?? I'm sure I've seen pictures of Saudi or RAF blunties loosing off a few rounds.... No, the Blunty was fitted with two MO32 7.62mm machine guns internally. They were basically GPMGs (MAG58s), but had electrical solenoids to fire them.
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Post by nzdavidh on May 9, 2010 9:42:24 GMT 12
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Post by corsair67 on May 9, 2010 13:24:07 GMT 12
Nice photos there, David; and they really show how well worn NZ6373's paint scheme is. One section of the starboard rear fuselage almost looks like someone has touched it up with a can of spray paint!
I actually think it looks quite good like that though, as you can get the feel that it has literally just been taken straight out of service and wheeled into the hangar.
I'm guessing it will at some stage receive a repaint?
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 10, 2010 9:16:52 GMT 12
Craig, the Museum's two Blunties arrived in that state straight out of service. As they were to be retired there was a halt put on their regular repaint to keep them pristine so they became very worn and tatty before they ended their service. I recall looking at them both when they arrived at Wigram and thinking how rough they looked.
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Post by turboNZ on May 25, 2010 13:15:28 GMT 12
I did an A-4K out of 3mm alloy plate to make into a clock. Did it with a 2D CAD programme. I still have the file if anyone wants me to make them one. (about 400mm long although can be any size). Attachments:![](//storage.proboards.com/1103027/thumbnailer/F6FWsuxigc23ZqiB1WK4.jpg)
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Post by flyjoe180 on May 25, 2010 22:58:15 GMT 12
Still making the clocks! Good to see. HMS Ajax hangs proudly at Dad's place and keeps good time. Anyone considering one of these, or any design, I can guarantee the workmanship and detail is amazing.
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Post by turboNZ on May 26, 2010 10:08:29 GMT 12
Glad to see that. The HMS Ajax is the biggest one I've made. Loved doing it to ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Thanks for the compliment ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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