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Post by nzjet on Jan 9, 2010 16:02:55 GMT 12
Any truth in the rumour that the Macchis are all crated up and ready to be frieghted ? Yes some of them are. Pretty silly really considering we wont be getting paid for them.
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Post by beagle on Jan 9, 2010 16:05:59 GMT 12
I thought they might have flown them to Woodbourne, not trucked them. hehehe
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Post by caromeg on Jan 10, 2010 21:14:18 GMT 12
I doubt they have any current Knucks
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Post by shorty on Mar 22, 2010 21:55:59 GMT 12
Now I'm sure I read somewhere in a press release on this thread that this was now a done deal and that test flights were imminent. Let me guess, they are still sitting there, no one can find Hoss and it's all gone very very quiet again?
What was that Tui beer slogan again?
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Post by corsair67 on Mar 22, 2010 22:16:31 GMT 12
Latest I've heard is that nobody had a pen with which to sign the final contract, so Hoss said he'd just pop outside to his car to grab one................. ;D
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 23, 2010 6:45:28 GMT 12
I've heard nothing but I'm going to be up at Ohakea in the weekend at the 75 Sqn Association Reunion so will try and find out what the latest is... more of the same I suspect.
Over the weekend I was actually working on the Disposal Saga chapter in "Alpha Four Kilo" and once you lay it all out, all the press releases, all the Official Information Requests, all the interviews it makes fascinating reading. But at the end of the day it has all just been a huge waste of taxpayers money and a highly undignified end for such a fine aircraft.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 23, 2010 9:35:53 GMT 12
I think the biggest mistake in this was using Ernst and Young as the sale brokers. They'd have been much better off hiring Delboy Trotter. He'd have shifted them without the US State Departrment even realising it.
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Mar 23, 2010 16:04:30 GMT 12
I was thaught that we were keeping the macchi's???
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Post by phil on Mar 23, 2010 16:56:52 GMT 12
What for? Paper weights?
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Post by yogi on Mar 23, 2010 18:27:55 GMT 12
lol!
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Post by baz62 on Mar 23, 2010 19:17:37 GMT 12
I think the biggest mistake in this was using Ernst and Young as the sale brokers. They'd have been much better off hiring Delboy Trotter. He'd have shifted them without the US State Departrment even realising it. Oh my god Dave thats funny! I can just picture him there with a small table set up and the Skyhawks behind him! ;D
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Post by 30sqnatc on Mar 23, 2010 20:10:07 GMT 12
I think the biggest mistake in this was using Ernst and Young as the sale brokers. They'd have been much better off hiring Delboy Trotter. He'd have shifted them without the US State Departrment even realising it. We should mount two as gate guards for Defence House one named Ernst and the other Young to ensure we remember the true value of consultants ;D Remember the company bye line is 'One of the world's leading professional services organizations, helps companies across the globe to identify and capitalize on business opportunities. The only problem in this case it was their business opportunities not NZDFs.
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Mar 23, 2010 22:15:05 GMT 12
i was under the impression that only the skyhawks were being sold??? as the Macchis were kept airworthy??
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 23, 2010 22:33:47 GMT 12
No. Both fleets were put up for sale at the same time. They were not necessarily going to be sold together, and in fact a few countries looked seriously at the Maachis but decided not to buy them. This US company run by Hoss Pearson reckons he will buy both fleets however.
Not too long ago there was discussion about reintroducing the Maachi to RNZAF service rather than waste money having them do nothing, but this was quashed by the Government.
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Mar 24, 2010 0:26:46 GMT 12
any idea why that project was squashed??? it would seem to ma as being a good idea as the RNZAF could train pilots in jet aircraft who were going onto the B757??
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Post by sqwark2k on Mar 24, 2010 8:43:27 GMT 12
You certainly don't need to train pilots destined for widebody airliners in tandem seat military jet trainers.... waste of money all round. Labour f#%$ed over our airforce and now we have to get over it and move on. There is no way any A4's or MB339C's are going to be regenerated for active service with the RNZAF....
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Mar 24, 2010 17:04:33 GMT 12
yea labour did seriously mess up the RNZAF, to reactivate an air amr would be a massive operation now and cost millions without even buying aircraft!!!
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Mar 24, 2010 21:31:52 GMT 12
as much as i hate it i can sort of see why it was all done
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Post by Barnsey on Apr 7, 2010 12:58:58 GMT 12
The Marlborough Express Last updated 12:38 07/04/2010 Rumours the potential buyer for the mothballed skyhawk fleet based at Woodbourne has pulled the pin on any deal are unfounded, says Associate Minister of Defence Heather Roy. The Marlborough Express had heard from anonymous sources at Woodbourne the sale between the Government and Arizona's Tactical Air Services (TAS) had fallen over, but Mrs Roy, who was aware of the rumours, had been advised that the "process is still progressing". TAS signed an agreement to buy the 17 Skyhawks along with 17 Aermacchi trainers in September 2005 for US$110 million (NZ$155.7m), but the sale was held up for four years awaiting approval from the United States Government. Final sign-off was given in October and TAS agreed to continue the purchase. Late last year, Mrs Roy said she was considering other options to dispose of the aircraft if TAS failed to raise the funds. However, yesterday Mrs Roy said the sale was now looking more positive than ever. TAS had been able to tickall the boxes, which included obtaining US Government approval for the sale, she said. TAS just needed to find a partner to bank roll the move to buy the aircraft. "I'd be as happy as anybody if the sale was to take place. It's progressing in the same way as it has for the last few months." She said the process would be completed "sooner rather than later" and they would not be sitting at Base Woodbourne by the time the general election rolled around next year. Mrs Roy said if the sale did go ahead proceeds would go straight back into the New Zealand Defence Forces "coffers". www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3554420/Skyhawk-sale-still-happening
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Post by Bruce on Apr 7, 2010 13:05:52 GMT 12
Yes, and the war in Iraq and Afganistan will be over, The Japanese will no longer hunt whales, all the nations on Earth will have enough food and aids and cancer will have been cured..... Not to mention our first squadron of pigs will be finishing their wings course.....
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