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Post by phil on Jun 9, 2010 22:35:51 GMT 12
Doesn't go far in AK. Great if you are in OH though, hence so many people own their own places in the Manawatu.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2010 23:04:11 GMT 12
The NZDF site states they are disposing of houses from Burnham, Linton and Waiouru, and they are for removal. That seems so shortsighted, particulalry for remote Waiouru. If the army expands inthe future they'll have to build or bring in more houses to replace them.
I also see on the NZDF site that two Defence Youth Centres have been opened for the Limited Service Volunteers (ie boot camp for the unemployed youth), one at Trentham and the other at Hobsonville. Has the NZDF wrestled a bit of Hobsonville back from Housing Corp? It states it is on Marine Parade, is that the wet apron? Or is it up the top?
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Post by lesterpk on Jun 9, 2010 23:10:40 GMT 12
Up top, next to the old mess, and the old canteen building.
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Post by beagle on Jun 10, 2010 18:21:17 GMT 12
Doesn't go far in AK. Great if you are in OH though, hence so many people own their own places in the Manawatu. so whats the guts with this arangement now. is the cost of living in barracks the same as a MQ rental and the same value given to a serviceman who either rents or owns off base
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jun 10, 2010 18:34:36 GMT 12
The NZDF site states they are disposing of houses from Burnham, Linton and Waiouru, and they are for removal. That seems so shortsighted, particulalry for remote Waiouru. If the army expands inthe future they'll have to build or bring in more houses to replace them.Thats the plan, if in the future more houses are needed they will be built as modern, insulated, easier/cheaper to maintain and suit modern families rather than those built in the 1950s designed around a coal fired copper in the washhouse and open wood fire etc, etc
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Post by phil on Jun 10, 2010 19:21:20 GMT 12
Doesn't go far in AK. Great if you are in OH though, hence so many people own their own places in the Manawatu. so whats the guts with this arangement now. is the cost of living in barracks the same as a MQ rental and the same value given to a serviceman who either rents or owns off base It's called the UAC, Universal Accommodation Component, and forms part of your Total Fixed Remuneration. Everyone gets some form of subsidised accomodation, MQ rents are below market rate so are considered subsidised, to that end those living in MQs do not qualify for the UAC as that would mean they would be receiving two subsidies. The flaw in that theory is if you are trying to maintain a house at another location (ie renting out your family home while you are posted to another area), you lose the UAC when you are posted if you move into a MQ. So to take a pay cut, while having to now pay rent on top of the existing mortgage payments acts as a huge disincentive to be posted to another base if you are a home owner. I know people who have had to turn down promotions because the pay cut they will take, even with the promotion, is more than they can afford. Barracks were put up to market rates, so those living in barracks receive UAC.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 10, 2010 19:23:22 GMT 12
Fair enough. If they do need new houses though it will be a costly exercise I'd think when it all balances out.
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Post by beagle on Jun 10, 2010 19:43:02 GMT 12
so whats the guts with this arangement now. is the cost of living in barracks the same as a MQ rental and the same value given to a serviceman who either rents or owns off base It's called the UAC, Universal Accommodation Component, and forms part of your Total Fixed Remuneration. Everyone gets some form of subsidised accomodation, MQ rents are below market rate so are considered subsidised, to that end those living in MQs do not qualify for the UAC as that would mean they would be receiving two subsidies. The flaw in that theory is if you are trying to maintain a house at another location (ie renting out your family home while you are posted to another area), you lose the UAC when you are posted if you move into a MQ. So to take a pay cut, while having to now pay rent on top of the existing mortgage payments acts as a huge disincentive to be posted to another base if you are a home owner. I know people who have had to turn down promotions because the pay cut they will take, even with the promotion, is more than they can afford. Barracks were put up to market rates, so those living in barracks receive UAC. so if you lived in auckland with say a $700 per fortnight mortgage, how much UAC do you get.
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Post by obiwan27 on Jun 12, 2010 14:18:38 GMT 12
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Post by beagle on Jun 12, 2010 19:05:23 GMT 12
Mrs Roy did not respond to the Manawatu Standard questions by press time, but earlier told media that any thoughts of reinstating the 17 mothballed Skyhawks were "impractical". " She knows deep down that they are "clapped out "While Skyhawks might be too expensive to restore, Mr Bethell said it could be possible to purchase F-18s jets from Australia. by the time they actually retire them, they will be more clapped out than our ex A4's
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