|
|
Post by pjw4118 on Dec 11, 2018 8:18:34 GMT 12
Names for the photo above , taken from the back of the photo ,
entrants of No 1 War Course Woodbourne 1940
Top ( LtoR) Falconer , Poynter ( killed Dec 40) Halley Survived , Crawford Killed North Africa Oct 40 ,
bottom Goldstone Killed Auckland Aug 40 , Miller , killed on Blenheims Uk july 40 , Smith , killed on Whitley Uk Oct 40 . Bayley , survived , Mackley , survived.
|
|
|
|
Post by starr on Dec 11, 2018 9:33:45 GMT 12
Len Trent VC was President of Warkworth Golf Club in 1984 and 1985. Our 75th anniversary was celebrated in 1983.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnm on Feb 8, 2019 9:13:53 GMT 12
|
|
|
|
Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 8, 2019 9:36:49 GMT 12
That's a big course!
|
|
|
|
Post by pjw4118 on Feb 8, 2019 9:53:55 GMT 12
Just a quick comment on the Kiwis going to the RAF on SSC , ones like Jack Shorthouse who became RAF rather than RNZAF , continued to serve post war until they had served their full term , and he transferred from Bomber Command to Transport command . Others like Des Andrewes and Keith Boles , both RNZAF ,took up an offer to extend their RAF time by 12 months ? and also went onto Transport Command .Des went onto Yorks and Keith onto a VIP flight with Lancastrians visiting NZ on one trip. He also ferried one of the Mosquitoes destined for 75 squadron down but was noted as an RAF pilot not RNZAF.
|
|
|
|
Post by davidd on Feb 8, 2019 20:29:09 GMT 12
That Course 52 looks more like Course 57 to me (by caption on photo), and it is NOT a big course! Many of the EFTS Courses from 1942 to 1944 started at about 70 strong - this one is only 48. The "wastage rate" at EFTS's was much higher than SFTS's, being about 10 - 15%; I think SFTS's usually managed to get 90 - 95% of their pupils qualified.
However a further check would seem to indicate that this is in fact Course 58, which ran at Wigram from about 1/2/45 till 12/7/45. My list shows following names (all classification of LAC unless otherwise stated) and with initials where known: B M Cobbe, F A B Cree, C K Ellis, B McGill (later a well known Hastings pilot in 1950s, killed in Harvard crash from Wigram about 1957), B L MacLean, P D B Mack (member of TAF postwar), R J Marshall, T G Martin, D W Mawson, F W Morrison, W F Mulvena, A D R Neave, I J Nicol, D M O'Connor, D A Oliver, R G Parkin, E R Parkinson, L N Pascoe, E R Patterson, D W Patton, F T Perry, C S F Reid (rank of F/O, ex W/Op A/G), L R Richards, K G Robinson (killed Wigram 16/4/45), G A Rogers, John Ryan, P H Scott, Ian Munro Sexton (rank of F/Sgt, previously a Radar Mech), D G Sim (rank of Sgt, previously what?), R W Snodgrass (rank of F/Sgt, previously Fitter IIE), G W Stevenson, W N Sutherland, J P Thomas, R E Thomas, E J Trappit, D N Tyler. This totals 36 only, but these do NOT include those who must have dropped out ("wastage" or "terminated") at Harewood, such as D W Gray (rank F/O, ex WOAG), S F Martin, Menzies, Middlemiss, Nelson, Nobbs, P M Patterson, Powell, Shield, G M Turner, Waaka, Waititi, Will, Willcox, Williams, Wynne, Young, I F Zampese, total of 18.
David D
|
|
|
|
Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 8, 2019 20:43:01 GMT 12
It's big by today's standards  |
|
|
|
Post by davidd on Feb 8, 2019 23:13:11 GMT 12
Fair point Dave. Did you notice D W (David) Gray in the above list (2nd to last line), he was the fellow who later owned and flew the Dominie in Auckland I think (AKU perhaps?)
David D
|
|
|
|
Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 9, 2019 7:52:14 GMT 12
Ah yes. He flew Dauntless and a few other things.
|
|
|
|
Post by angelsonefive on Feb 9, 2019 9:05:27 GMT 12
...Middlemiss, Nelson, Nobbs, P M Patterson, Powell, Shield, G M Turner, Waaka, Waititi, Will, Willcox, Williams, Wynne, Young, I F Zampese, total of 18.
David D [/quote]
Hi David,
Can you please confirm the first initial ( or name ) of LAC Zampese ?
I believe this could be Larry Franklin Zampese, an agricultural pilot of the 1950's and 60's.
Thanks in advance.
a15.
|
|
|
|
Post by errolmartyn on Feb 9, 2019 9:45:36 GMT 12
...Middlemiss, Nelson, Nobbs, P M Patterson, Powell, Shield, G M Turner, Waaka, Waititi, Will, Willcox, Williams, Wynne, Young, I F Zampese, total of 18. David D Hi David, Can you please confirm the first initial ( or name ) of LAC Zampese ? I believe this could be Larry Franklin Zampese, an agricultural pilot of the 1950's and 60's. Thanks in advance. a15.[/quote] Enlisted as NZ44352 Illario Francillo Zampese, 15 Jan 44 Re-enlisted as NZ48496, 2 Sep 48 Renumbered as 72518, Jan 49 Apparently there is an obit for Father Larry Zampese in the 'Evening Post' of 15 Jul 67, though I have not seen. The only other Zampese to serve in the RNZAF during WWII was NZC444028 A Zampese, full first name unknown, presumably related to the above? Errol |
|
|
|
Post by angelsonefive on Feb 9, 2019 10:33:27 GMT 12
Thanks Errol,
Larry Franklin seems like an anglicised form of Illario Francillo so this will be the guy. Larry Zampese is listed in the NZ Archives as having been in four flying accidents. 18/2/53 ZK-ALX Kekeraugh; 25/8/54 ZK-AXF Middlehurst; 6/5/56 ZK-BDJ Kurow; and 5/2/61 ZK-ANW Oaro.
The Archives also have a Probate listing for Larry Franklin Zampese in 1967.
There are a lot of Zampeses listed in the NZ Archives Alien Registration Files, some of them as " enemy aliens ".
The only A. Zampeses I can see in the Archives are Angelo, who applied for naturalisation in 1938, and Antonio Brian of Greymouth, who died in a mining accident in 1975.
|
|
|
|
Post by Peter Lewis on Feb 9, 2019 14:42:24 GMT 12
Fair point Dave. Did you notice D W (David) Gray in the above list (2nd to last line), he was the fellow who later owned and flew the Dominie in Auckland I think (AKU perhaps?) David D Correct, ZK-AKU 1968 - 2004 |
|
|
|
Post by davidd on Feb 10, 2019 11:51:40 GMT 12
I F Zampese may have been with the postwar Territorial Air Force, but cannot confirm at this stage. However his postwar number appears to indicate he was a regular rather than apart-timer.
David D
|
|
|
|
Post by angelsonefive on Feb 11, 2019 8:40:17 GMT 12
|
|
|
|
Post by pjw4118 on Feb 11, 2019 10:09:55 GMT 12
Bill Petersen at ITW January 1943 and later at EFTS Ashburton   |
|
|
|
Post by pjw4118 on Mar 20, 2019 9:26:09 GMT 12
Interesting that the hand written list includes Joplin, Coster and Harper, two on Tirpitz raids in 1944.   |
|
dirkdq
Leading Aircraftman
Posts: 3
|
Post by dirkdq on Jun 23, 2019 8:22:34 GMT 12
Here's two from the NZBCA Collection I found of interest. Luckily they had the names on the back. The photographer is unknown.  RNZAF New Plymouth mess Friday October 13. L to R Punch Marusich, Art Douglas, Tom Davis, Rell Gordan, Kuhn, Me, Heff, Cliff Perrett, Chuck Ryan, Sid Pratt Drunky Merrin, Doug Hotleway, Roy Stockwell, Johnny Hall, Frank MacPherson, Nooki With it is another labelled Sergeants mess NP dated Friday 13 February. So maybe it was a Black Friday bash. The other is of NZ Airmen POW Stalag 8B Landsdorf 1944  Back Row - Powell, Thom, Gibbs, Otter, Craddock, Forbes *, Pickford, Giddings Centre Row - Hardie, Bevan, Pitts, Emmerson *, Atkin, Devine, Nicholson, Johnson *, Witla Front - OByrne, Hyde, Grimsby, MacKenzie, Mossman, Voice, Scobie, J MacKenzie * Wings |
|
dirkdq
Leading Aircraftman
Posts: 3
|
Post by dirkdq on Jun 23, 2019 8:24:45 GMT 12
Here's two from the NZBCA Collection I found of interest. Luckily they had the names on the back. The photographer is unknown. RNZAF New Plymouth mess Friday October 13. L to R Punch Marusich, Art Douglas, Tom Davis, Rell Gordan, Kuhn, Me, Heff, Cliff Perrett, Chuck Ryan, Sid Pratt Drunky Merrin, Doug Hotleway, Roy Stockwell, Johnny Hall, Frank MacPherson, Nooki With it is another labelled Sergeants mess NP dated Friday 13 February. So maybe it was a Black Friday bash. The other is of NZ Airmen POW Stalag 8B Landsdorf 1944 Back Row - Powell, Thom, Gibbs, Otter, Craddock, Forbes *, Pickford, Giddings Centre Row - Hardie, Bevan, Pitts, Emmerson *, Atkin, Devine, Nicholson, Johnson *, Witla Front - OByrne, Hyde, Grimsby, MacKenzie, Mossman, Voice, Scobie, J MacKenzie * Wings |
|
dirkdq
Leading Aircraftman
Posts: 3
|
Post by dirkdq on Jun 23, 2019 8:30:14 GMT 12
Hello
I am new here.
In 1999 I excavated Lancaster DX-P of 57 RAF Sqd, and in 2000 I erected with the local authorities a monument of that crew.
Every year at the moment of the crash Dec 21 1942 we have a memorial.
The Lancaster was shot down by a ME110 and crashed in Lierde, Belgium.
In the mean time I am in contact with relatives of all crews.
There was only one surviver, NZ airgunner Roden Pickford. The family (and I) are very interested in the photo of Pickford taken in Lansdorf in 1944 as POW.
I am working with the local authorities on a permanent museum, so these men will not be forgotten, and this photo would great to put it on exposition with all the other items the families donated and artefacts.
As I do not frequent forums, please contact me by mail : dirk.de.quick@telenet.be
Dirk
Belgium.
|
|
