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Post by scorpiomikey on Jul 19, 2010 9:12:49 GMT 12
Hey guys, im new here, my names mike, one of the guys from another forum sent me here because he thought you might be able to help me. Is there anyone here who was in the paintshop when the Golden scooter was being painted? Me and my gf are building it for her dad for fathers day.
Shes playing the role of Bob the Builder, and im the incredible Paint Man.
So i need to find out how to create the colour that was on this bird. The decal sheet says to use tamiya X-12, which has a metal flake in it. From what ive seen of the real thing (photos) its almost a bronze colour and has no metal flake. spoke to my dad who saw it up close as he confirms this.
Does anyone have any idea what colours i should use on this? Im pretty much using exclusively tamiya but im open to ideas.
Thanks heaps in advance guys.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jul 19, 2010 12:26:51 GMT 12
There are other threads on this forum about the Golden Skyhawk and quite a lot of photos, including ones of it getting painted. Have a search...
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Post by phil on Jul 20, 2010 18:21:34 GMT 12
the enamel x12 should be pretty fine grained (at least my old jar is), on the other hand, the acrylic version is pretty grainy.
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Post by scorpiomikey on Jul 21, 2010 10:40:16 GMT 12
i hadnt thought of the enamel. i use acrylics and i dont like the X12 acrylic as its a bit heavy on the metal flake and looks too much like car paint. Ill have a look at the enamel though, cheers.
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Post by mumbles on Jul 21, 2010 11:07:04 GMT 12
I spray bombed mine with gold from a Tamiya rattle can. If I did it again I would undercoat it with black to give it a bit more depth, but otherwise it looks OK. Just be careful with your fume management if you go the can route, it isn't stuff you want to be inhaling.
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Post by scorpiomikey on Jul 22, 2010 9:22:33 GMT 12
yeah i know how those spray cans can go, do you have pictures of yours somewhere? my other halfs bringing home some antique gold at some point to try.
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Post by mumbles on Jul 22, 2010 21:14:11 GMT 12
Here you go. This is in 1/72 scale, painted with TS-21 Gold, with a clear gloss coat on top
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Post by scorpiomikey on Jul 26, 2010 10:18:35 GMT 12
very nice, well done, i like it. for some reason shes opposed to spraying it, so im going with the antique gold she got from her work. Tried it on a busted old typhoon kit and there was no damage to the plastic, it conformed beautifully to the underlying plastic (picking out EVERY flaw) and it appears to be self levelling. no brush marks or anything.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jul 26, 2010 15:16:32 GMT 12
I think the actual gold paint used on the aircraft was an automotive paint anyway as there was nothing suitable in the aircraft paint range.
I have used the Tamiya X12 enamel in 1/48 and it looks good.
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Post by scorpiomikey on Jul 26, 2010 16:10:10 GMT 12
interesting to note about the automotive spray.
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Post by scorpiomikey on Sept 1, 2010 11:07:36 GMT 12
Ok, so anyone interested in building this aircraft. or ANY TA-4K. DONT, i repeat DONT, get the AZModels TA-4K. This is by far the WORST kit i have ever had the misfortune to work on. The fuselage halves dont fit together. if i didnt know any better id say they were from different kits. The only high point in the kit is the wings. they fit OK with a minimum of work. Otherwise id avoid this kit like the plague. Now that ive slammed the plastic, im gonna slam the instruction sheet. it looks like it was printed from a 3rd edition photocopy on a broken down dot matrix printer. It also apears to be missing about 3 pages of information. (ive checked the page numbers, its not) pretty much all of it has been built by guesswork because the instructions are useless. So, plenty of photos and phonecalls to my father and lots of guesswork.
On a lighter note. Ive got the fuselage buttoned up (after alot of swearing and a few tantrums on my part) Just smoothing out the seams now. When it arrived i took one look at it and decided i was gonna do the lot. My partners only built half a model before (1/72nd havard in RNZAF colours) and i didnt want her being scared off the hobby for life by this kit. its nearly scared me off it.
Hopefully have the wings on this weekend.
Anyway cheers for listening (reading) my rant. Have a lovely day Mike
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Post by timmo on Sept 1, 2010 13:54:07 GMT 12
Its probably come about from mis-storage (i.e. heat warping the plastic).....It is a PITA though isn't it
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Post by scorpiomikey on Nov 3, 2010 12:47:01 GMT 12
Right so after fighting with it for an unspecified length of time (it got chucked back in the box and put to one side for a while) Ive got it to a state where it can be painted. Now i have a question. Any idea what colour the UNDERSIDE of the forward slats were? I know on the wing itself its dark grey, but what about the slats themselves? Thanks guys.
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Post by mumbles on Nov 3, 2010 21:11:57 GMT 12
Any idea what colour the UNDERSIDE of the forward slats were? I know on the wing itself its dark grey, but what about the slats themselves? Thanks guys. The slat recesses on the wings were flat black rather than grey Not sure about the underside of the slats themselves; I just painted mine gold like the rest of the slat.
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Post by Craig Sargent on Nov 4, 2010 20:31:02 GMT 12
If you'd started here, I would have warned you off the AZModels (aka Classic Airframes) TA-4 as it is a badly modified rip off of the Hasegawa A-4E. The Hasegawa TA-4J is a far superior, and much easier to assemble, starting point. The only thing you need to change is a pair of 150 gallon drop tanks.
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Post by scorpiomikey on Nov 5, 2010 8:48:34 GMT 12
LOL thanks talon, i didnt know about this website when i started on it. Also i just found "TA-4K" so i went BUY IT lol. oh well. Heres a photo.
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Post by kiwichappers on Nov 7, 2010 1:46:51 GMT 12
Some years ago I inquired about a match for the colour '56 with the RNZAF Historical unit. Terase [? memory fading here and cannot find notes on new 'puter] replied that the paint was Benson and Hedges Gold.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 10, 2010 21:18:41 GMT 12
Thérèse Angelo, the Director of the Air Force Museum of New Zealand
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Post by skyhawkdon on Nov 11, 2010 14:06:10 GMT 12
Some years ago I inquired about a match for the colour '56 with the RNZAF Historical unit. Terase [? memory fading here and cannot find notes on new 'puter] replied that the paint was Benson and Hedges Gold. '56 was unofficially known as the "B&H Special" when it was in that scheme, so you could be right.
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Post by scorpiomikey on Nov 11, 2010 14:09:28 GMT 12
Interesting, do you know if B&H still use the same gold?
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