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Post by Ykato on Aug 11, 2010 12:36:30 GMT 12
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Post by oggie2620 on Aug 13, 2010 9:59:29 GMT 12
Knowing the very generous RNZAF I presume they have a/c in Pakistan which our RAF C17 fleet will be joining?
Dee
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2010 15:29:35 GMT 12
I'm not certain if a C-130 has deployed to help Pakistan, Dee, as two of our five aircraft are currently out of action permanently while they are rebuilt, and the other three are pretty busy. But NZ has indeed pledged a lot of money to the releif efforts.
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Aug 13, 2010 15:42:58 GMT 12
Would Sending a Orion to Pakistan be considered?  |
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Post by Bruce on Aug 13, 2010 16:12:51 GMT 12
Theres enough water there to send HMNZS Canterbury.....
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Post by skyhawkdon on Aug 13, 2010 20:03:47 GMT 12
Would Sending a Orion to Pakistan be considered? Why?? |
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Post by phil on Aug 13, 2010 20:15:41 GMT 12
What would an Orion achieve in Pakistan?
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Post by kiwiscanfly on Aug 13, 2010 20:25:41 GMT 12
I was just pondering the idea of an Orion being used to aid with locating survivors and prioritizing Aid and assisting with SAR.
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 14, 2010 15:52:43 GMT 12
I like that the fact that Flt Lt Russell managed to mention a number of times in the clip that Pitch Black was a great exercise to participate in because it meant the could practice their tactics while operating against jets - which is something they no longer get to do since NZ disbanded their fast jet force! ;D
I wonder if he'll be moved to an obscure desk job within the next few weeks - something like RNZAF Liaison Officer on Pitt Island! ;D
The RNZAF's P-3K crews are renown for their skills in locating people, so maybe they could search for Osama Bin Laden? ;D
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Post by 30sqnatc on Aug 14, 2010 16:49:49 GMT 12
I like that the fact that Flt Lt Russell managed to mention a number of times in the clip that Pitch Black was a great exercise to participate in because it meant the could practice their tactics while operating against jets - Which current or forseeable operation would require the RNZAF, or any air force for that matter, to operate a C-130 in an environment where the enemy could employ jet fighters against them? I don't think our doctrine calls for suicidal transport crews  |
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Post by the_flying_surfer on Aug 14, 2010 16:57:16 GMT 12
Not exactly sure but I'm thinking when the C-130 initially deployed the troops to secure Dili Airfield and Port that there still may have been a risk from fighters? Of course there was OCA provided by Oz.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Aug 15, 2010 11:59:33 GMT 12
[/quote]Which current or forseeable operation would require the RNZAF, or any air force for that matter, to operate a C-130 in an environment where the enemy could employ jet fighters against them? I don't think our doctrine calls for suicidal transport crews [/quote] I can think of plenty of potential scenarios! That is why 40 Squadron are there training for it! While none of our current operations have an air threat that doesn't mean those in the future won't. We must train as we would operate - it applies to all three services. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 15, 2010 14:17:21 GMT 12
The biggest current threat is probably friendly fire, isn't it?
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Post by angelsonefive on Aug 15, 2010 18:08:10 GMT 12
Dave, I think the biggest threat in the small war or counter-insurgency setting, such as Iraq and Afghanistan, would be the portable, shoulder launched heat -seeking missile, like the Stinger for example.
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Post by phil on Aug 15, 2010 18:42:51 GMT 12
The biggest current threat is probably friendly fire, isn't it? I wouldn't think so. I expect most coalition troops can tell a friendly c-130 from a Taliban one... I think the biggest threat comes from MANPADS and possibly something like a DShK while on approach or take off, or a lucky hit from a rocket attack while on the ground. |
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Post by bigal on Aug 15, 2010 19:26:14 GMT 12
Which current or forseeable operation would require the RNZAF, or any air force for that matter, to operate a C-130 in an environment where the enemy could employ jet fighters against them? I don't think our doctrine calls for suicidal transport crews [/quote] I can think of plenty of potential scenarios! That is why 40 Squadron are there training for it! While none of our current operations have an air threat that doesn't mean those in the future won't. We must train as we would operate - it applies to all three services.[/quote] send a herc to oz with a load of kiwi apples onboard for example ;D ;D ;D |
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