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Post by dakman on Sept 20, 2010 16:20:52 GMT 12
noted a recent report in the CAA
accident listings that ZK MST had been
damaged in a accident ??
Can anyone in the CH CH area confirm ??
Thanks
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Post by baz62 on Sept 20, 2010 17:16:32 GMT 12
noted a recent report in the CAA accident listings that ZK MST had been damaged in a accident ?? Can anyone in the CH CH area confirm ?? Thanks Its been a few weeks since the report, nothing in the media I can see unless its been kept quiet (which is understandable). Someone one on the "grapevine" will know about it. |
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Post by dakman on Sept 20, 2010 20:15:46 GMT 12
Thanks Baz we will see what what is
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Post by skiddly on Sept 20, 2010 20:31:46 GMT 12
From what I know which is very limited, was invloved in forced landing after engine propblems. Landed in a paddock in North Canterbury, nil inury and unsure of damage to aircraft.
Sorry can't add much more but will pass on any news on if I hear it.
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Post by kiwi172 on Sept 20, 2010 21:50:12 GMT 12
I have heard only third hand that it was a reduction gearbox failure and that the aircraft crashed (rather than landed)[overstretching the glide] & that the aircraft is munted.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 21, 2010 0:00:28 GMT 12
I assume this discussion is about a Titan Mustang and not a Mustang??
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Post by lumpy on Sept 21, 2010 7:06:57 GMT 12
Yes Suzuki v6 powered T51 Titan Mustang ( I googled it ) ;D
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Post by sqwark2k on Sept 21, 2010 8:21:19 GMT 12
Was reported in the CHCH Press when it happened. The day after I was out at Loburn Abbey to meet Ivan Campbell actually. Thought it might have been one of the 2 new machines that are required to do 40hrs test flying prior to delivery and not Ivan's personal machine. A great wee airfield and production hangar to visit if you're through the area. Ivan builds the Titan Mustang, 80% Tiger Moth and 90% Spitfire replica's. With a few of each in various stages of build. I believe he's happy to have visits by air and road with a ring ahead. www.campbellaeroclassics.com/index.htmlGoogle Earth Lat/Long: 43°14'3.86"S 172°29'31.05"E Cheers S2K |
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Post by efliernz on Sept 21, 2010 8:55:08 GMT 12
I have heard 3rd hand that all NZ Titan Mustangs are voluntary grounded while the NZ-made reduction system design is being revisited. I understand there are concerns...
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Post by Bruce on Sept 21, 2010 9:16:07 GMT 12
Well it wouldnt be ALL NZ titan Mustangs if it is a gearbox issue, as there are at least 4 different powerplants on the NZ Titans, with a variety of gearbox and propeller types in use. I havent heard of gearbox concerns, and I would expect to do so as I have a similar gearbox on ZK-CKE.
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Post by shane on Sept 21, 2010 10:17:21 GMT 12
If it is a problem with the gearbox ZK-TLI, ZK-WSV and ZK-DBG (gone overseas) have been fitted with the autoflight geardrive and ZK-SMF was fitted with an earlier autoflight reduction drive. There are a couple more that haven't been registered yet that also have the same geardrive.
The geardrive has been pretty sucessful up to now the design must have clocked up a few hours in the gyrocopters and various microlights its been fitted to.
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Post by sleemanj on Sept 21, 2010 10:45:00 GMT 12
A long story short, as I have heard, gearbox failed, instant loss of thrust necessitated a forced landing which was not entirely successful for reasons which are unimportant right now. Aircraft is now an expensive pile of twisted metal, totaled.
My guess is the problem arises when the gearbox is fitted to the "mini merlin" (Vitara V6), I expect it's just not strong enough.
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Post by dakman on Sept 21, 2010 14:39:01 GMT 12
Thanks for the response people
pleased to note no injury ??
to pilot
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Post by shane on Sept 22, 2010 11:50:58 GMT 12
I borrowed this from another forum : www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/firewall-forward-props-fuel-system/5968-what-psru-can-we-really-trust-9.htmlResult of CAA Investigation into ZK-MST We have today received preliminary findings from CAA regarding ZK-MST as follows: Their analysis and inspection of the gear box shows there is no engineering fault with the gearbox, or other components, and there was no oil lubrication or temperature problems. CAA's independent inquiry has come to the conclusion that this is a harmonics issue which developed between this particular combination of Suzuki V6 engine, Vesta LT4-82EH prop and Autoflight Geardrive. Accordingly CAA have advised that this combination is not to be operated. To pinpoint the exact cause of this specific harmonics issue would take extensive and prolonged research, and it is not the intention of CAA to commit resources and finance to further investigate. We advise that the experimental V6 combinations that are so far working to date and are continuing to develop a test history are the combination with the Whirlwind hollow blade 84" prop supplied by Titan, the Autoflight Geardrive and the Suzuki 2.5L or 2.7L and the Honda 3.5L engines. The 912ULS and 914S Rotax engine options continue to work well with the 70" Whirlwind Blade. Campbell Aviation Hope this clears things up Shane |
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Post by efliernz on Sept 22, 2010 12:51:52 GMT 12
Clear it up? Just what we needed thanks. Much better than 3rd-hand...
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Post by shane on Sept 23, 2010 5:32:21 GMT 12
Squark2k wrote;
The day after I was out at Loburn Abbey to meet Ivan Campbell actually.
Have u got any pictures you can post from your visit so we can get a sneak peak at the up and coming projects ?? Especially if you have some of the spitfires.
Thanks
Shane
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Post by rotors1 on Jan 26, 2011 5:52:02 GMT 12
As a flow on affect from all of the above, unfortunately no current New Zealand insurance companies will insure future T-51 Mustangs in Australasia.
The word is that once the existing policies mature, that's it. Even the Rotax powered machines are not favored at all by the insurers.
Not good new for T-51 owners.
Rotors1
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