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Post by skyhawknut on Oct 24, 2010 20:55:05 GMT 12
Hi my name is jason lowe and I'm a huge skyhawk admirer and have been for a long time . A few years ago I brought 17 1-48th scale model skyhawks in the hope of doing a squadron build. So with your help I'm hoping that we can make this dream of mine happen. So I have a few questions for you . I hope anyone out there can HELP. 1.... I need to know the (FS) Federal Standard colour number that the skyhawks are painted in. 2.... Were the skyhawks finished in a semi-gloss or a matt finish. 3.... How many hours would it take to paint a skyhawk from start to finish. 4.... I was wondering how I can get hold of photos of each of the skyhawks , so I can get the weathering and the little details exactly right on each aircraft. I am after some photos of the skyhawks when they were stored inside and outside at RNZAF base Woodbourne , so I can hang some nice pictures on my wall. 5..... Once all my skyhawks are built , I would like to put them out on the flight line . So if anyone knows if their there is any plans or photos of the layout of the markings of the flight line. I know that these sound like strange requests , but if you can help me it would be greatly appreciated. My Email is j_lowea4@hotmail.com
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Post by smithy on Oct 25, 2010 11:43:27 GMT 12
Oh that is quite the project. There are others here who are far more knowledgeable than myself but I'll start:
1) Depends which scheme you are going for. If the last all over green scheme, then FS34079.
2) Matt
3) Depends on many variables. Which scheme, paint used (drying times between coats), hand brushing, airbrush, or rattle can.
4) You'll have to have a sniff around lots of places, two places to start are: Calum's A-4 alley and Kiwi Aircraft images.
5) You'll need a hell of a lot of space to display 17 48th scale Skyhawks in a line! But that's for you to work out.
Best of luck with the project, it really is an enormous undertaking.
Cheers!
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Post by skyhawknut on Oct 26, 2010 16:28:43 GMT 12
Thank you very much for your help.
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Post by Deane B on Oct 26, 2010 19:16:01 GMT 12
For the flightline layout, I doubt you will find any plans, so you will may have to work from photos and guesstimate the spacing. Not forgetting that there was usually never 17 A4's on the line as they were a) split into 2 Squadrons and b) there were always aircraft undergoing medium and heavy level maintenance at Ohakea and Woodbourne. Some of the ex 75 Sqn guys may have a better idea if they ever came together at once? The only time I saw them was in white now at Woodbourne.
Have fun with your project - will be a big undertaking !!
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Post by phil on Oct 26, 2010 20:04:33 GMT 12
I don't remember exactly how many spaces we had marked out on the line, but it wasn't 17 that's for sure.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 26, 2010 22:17:46 GMT 12
1.... I need to know the (FS) Federal Standard colour number that the skyhawks are painted in.
Which scheme do you actually want? They wore many different colour schemes. The most recent being Humbrol white
2.... Were the skyhawks finished in a semi-gloss or a matt finish.
Semi-gloss white with gloss pools of water
3.... How many hours would it take to paint a skyhawk from start to finish.
I saw one being painted at Ohakea off and on while on the way to the Joe Room and I'd estimate it was several days work with all the prep and masking, etc, but I wouldn't be able to say the exact length of time as I wasn't on the team. There were a lot of S&S guys and girls involved in the repaint though, it is no small job. Maybe up to two weeks at a guess.
4.... I was wondering how I can get hold of photos of each of the skyhawks , so I can get the weathering and the little details exactly right on each aircraft. I am after some photos of the skyhawks when they were stored inside and outside at RNZAF base Woodbourne , so I can hang some nice pictures on my wall.
To find photos of individual Skyhawks search the forum - there has got to be around 1000 of them on here. However photos of them keelhauled at Woodbourne I would not describe as nice, nor worthy of mounting on the wall.
5..... Once all my skyhawks are built , I would like to put them out on the flight line . So if anyone knows if their there is any plans or photos of the layout of the markings of the flight line.
Again there are many photos of Skyhawks on the flightline on this forum, and I'd recommend you watch Six of the Best, but which flightline do you want? Woodbourne? Ohakea? Nowra?
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Post by skyhawknut on Oct 27, 2010 20:40:27 GMT 12
Thanks dave .1... When the skyhawks were painted in the dark green scheme .Were they finished in a semi-gloss or a matt finish. People are telling me semi-gloss and others are saying matt. 2...All I wanted was some good pictures of them all together ,because that might be the last time we all get to take pictures of them .They will be missed heaps.
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Post by smithy on Oct 27, 2010 21:40:44 GMT 12
Thanks dave .1... When the skyhawks were painted in the dark green scheme .Were they finished in a semi-gloss or a matt finish. People are telling me semi-gloss and others are saying matt. 2...All I wanted was some good pictures of them all together ,because that might be the last time we all get to take pictures of them .They will be missed heaps. Jason, As I said above, they were matt  Cheers. |
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Post by phil on Oct 27, 2010 22:15:24 GMT 12
They were definitely matt. Anyone who has actually seen them in person or worked on them will tell you that.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 28, 2010 8:57:22 GMT 12
Correct, my statement of semi-gloss white was an attempt at humour as it is their most current shceme.
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Post by skyhawknut on Oct 28, 2010 16:47:10 GMT 12
Thank you Dave Homewood,phil,smithy,Deane B,
for your help ,you guys have been really helpful . my internet here at home is really really slow. I'm only getting half the messages from you guys. Sorry for being a pain the ass.
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Post by huey03 on Oct 28, 2010 18:29:12 GMT 12
Here's a blast from the past. At Ohakea my father 'JRAG' tried to take a photo with 16 x A4's (inc TA-4s). The photo is a slide, but the best I could count were 15 tails Hmmmm how old is the photo you ask - taken not long after the A-4's went operational at Ohakea. Good luck with your project. I'm still working on a complete 3 Sqn in 1/72nd.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 28, 2010 19:56:07 GMT 12
Fifteen tails just after the Skyhawks arrived at Ohakea? But we only had 14 then. The other ten didn't join the RNZAF till 1984.
I am looking forward to seeing photos of these squadron builds, please post some.
When you say the complete 3 Squadron, do you mean all the Iroquois like Jason's Skyhawk project? Or do you mean one of everything the squadron has flown - one each of the Baffin, Vincent, Vildebeest, Oxford, Hudson, Ventura, harvard, Mustang, Iroquois, Sioux, Wasp and Seasprite? Either way, it's a cool project.
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Post by beagle on Oct 28, 2010 20:39:19 GMT 12
Fifteen tails just after the Skyhawks arrived at Ohakea? But we only had 14 then. The other ten didn't join the RNZAF till 1984. . could have been 1 or 2 RAN ones visiting, or did they ever visit here. i take it Melbourne with her compliment surely must have paid a visit sometime, but I cannot remember while I was in. |
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Post by beagle on Oct 28, 2010 20:45:37 GMT 12
Can't wait to see both those collections when finished. Been years since I did a model. 1/48 Herk got melted when a stray cat in the hangar bumped over a container of MEK on it, and my UH-1H at Wigram fell out the second storey window and suffered cat5 damage.
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