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Post by 185skywagon on Sept 28, 2009 18:57:59 GMT 12
185skywagon Thanks haven't seen that one before, on approach to the Fox strip after dropping tandems. Yes its neat to have that in the background of that good pic of the lake. If the date is correct (27/3/07) that it was taken, then it was probably me unless you were there too ? I wouldn't mind getting a good quality version framed |
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Post by tukituki on Sept 28, 2009 19:35:23 GMT 12
Whats happening Ben?
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Post by 185skywagon on Sept 28, 2009 22:40:16 GMT 12
Howdy there James, not a great lot at the moment mate  CHSWasn't that the one which ended up following power lines into the side of a hill or a tunnel by the side of the desert road ? Would be interested to hear what happened there |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 28, 2009 23:41:28 GMT 12
Cessna 185D ZK-CHS Taupo Air Services Ltd. - Crashed beside the Desert Road,near Rangipo River, in bad weather while flying from Palmerston North to Taupo 19Mar79.
There will be a CAA fatal accident report.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 29, 2009 0:14:05 GMT 12
Cessna 185D ZK-CHS Taupo Air Services Ltd. - Crashed beside the Desert Road,near Rangipo River, in bad weather while flying from Palmerston North to Taupo 19Mar79. There will be a CAA fatal accident report. Both ZK-CGH and ZK-CHS were fitted with a 260hp engine when I first jumped out of each of them. However, at some stage, one of them was re-engined with a 300hp engine, but I can't recall which one of them it was that was re-engined all these decades later. I was aware ZK-CHS had been written off. However, a few years ago I ran into ZK-CGH at Glenorchy, so I presume it has survived and is still in existence somewhere. I don't know what happened to ZK-DPH since I used to jump out of it during the 1970s. |
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Post by thomarse on Sept 29, 2009 12:52:55 GMT 12
Back to that first photo - I'd like to know more about that.
Like, the old-fashioned handwriting? Anyone know the photo's origin?
I've seen it before; I think it's in my programme from the Agricultural Airshow at Milson about 1956.
My vote goes to AZZ - Rangitikei Air Services/Garnham Aviation. Terrain could easily be Waiouru -ish.
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Post by tukituki on Sept 29, 2009 13:01:59 GMT 12
DPH was I think the first C.185 I flew I think back in Nov 99. At that stage Murry Stewart ownd it and was using for spraying with a belly tank.About that time he exported it to Oz and then brought a Cresco of the Co-op. Murry usd to do para dropping for Marty at Masterton. I also worked for Marty LLoyd flying CBY jumping at Masterton and Hastings.Really enjoyed thoose days
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Post by weheka on Sept 29, 2009 13:39:25 GMT 12
On the back of the photo is S.G.Goebel. Surfcasting, Paints, Wallpaper, Picture Framer. Broadway, Marton, Phone 2671.
If thats any help.
I am pretty sure it's not Garnhams AZZ which was not the first 180 topdressing anyway. Already in the country were BDB,BDC,BDE,BDF and BDU? The first 180 in service in Oct 1953?
There is a name or something written on an angle on the pilots door and the bottom paint trim is missing behind the pilots door.
It appears to be a 1954 paint scheme and could be in the BF or BG regos, just going on Eddie Coates photos. Also it looks like the first letter on the fin is possibly Z, a lot of them had the full ZK rego on the fin.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 29, 2009 20:17:43 GMT 12
My first static line jump was at Ardmore out of Cessna 185 ZK-CAN, pilot Underwood. That was using a TU chute.
For further jumps out of the same aircraft at Ardmore, Dairy Flat and Ngatea the pilot was Kelvin Stark.
We later had the use of a Beaver - but I can't remember which one! That was at Rotorua and Hamilton, but we lost the use of that after an 'incident' at Hamilton.
Shortly after that I decided that it would be a good idea to try and make the number of aircraft landings more-or-less equal the number of aircraft takeoffs.
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Post by Dave.K on Sept 30, 2009 20:27:38 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 30, 2009 21:26:17 GMT 12
A selection of ZK-B-series Cessna 180s: ZK-BDB Ardmore 10Sep2009  ZK-BDE Bell Block 1966  ZK-BDF Harewood 1955  ZK-BEL Whenuapai 2004  ZK-BEZ Rukuhia 13Jan1968  ZK-BGI Wanaka 2004  ZK-BGO Invercargill? 1960s  ZK-BJB Ardmore 13Mar1965  ZK-BJU Matamata 28Jan1967  ZK-BJX Dargaville 27Aug1965  ZK-BJY Wanaka 2004  ZK-BKG Rongotai 1961  ZK-BMS New Plymouth 5Mar1967  ZK-BSP Mt Maunganui 2003  ZK-BUG Wanganui 19Feb1966  ZK-BUJ Rukuhia 19Feb1966  ZK-BUQ date/place unknown  ZK-BUS Wanaka 2004  ZK-BVD Ardmore 1995  ZK-BVG Ardmore 28Jan1966  ZK-BVV Bell Block 3Mar1967  ZK-BXV Timaru 28Jan1978  ZK-BYI Rukuhia 26Mar1966  ZK-BYJ TATCo Strip at Dargaville 27Aug1965  ZK-BZV Matamata? 1960s  |
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Post by thomarse on Oct 1, 2009 12:54:22 GMT 12
That ancient topdressing photo is gnawing at me........
Okay, I'll concede that it's not AZZ BDE BDF BEL or BEZ in their original schemes (Eddie Coates photos) and if BDB or BDC it's before Manawatu painted them in their scheme. However, if either of them then it's not in the same scheme as all its registration and serial number kin.
That tends to leave only BDU.
However, the possibility that the "first in the world" bit is not accurate exists.
Phil Lightband would know. He'd be interested in the history of that photo too.
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Post by weheka on Oct 1, 2009 15:23:15 GMT 12
Thomarse,
If you know Phil why don't you run it past him? He may well recognise the machine. He would also know which was the first 180 on topdressing.
I have had it reframed but kept the old writing and placed it on the back.
If topdressing in 180s started in 1954 then it might be the first, but I think it started in 53, and that would be with the 53 paint scheme which is quite different.
Something interesting on Eds site. ZK-BFE came into the country in August 1954, but with the 1955 paint scheme. Maybe this aircraft came into the country in 1953, but with the 54 livery?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 1, 2009 21:22:28 GMT 12
A few more Bs that are lying around: ZK-BEI Queenstown 1962/4  ZK-BFD place unknown, approx 1960  ZK-BFT Invercargill Mar1962  ZK-BFU Wanganui 17Feb1966  ZK-BGL Omaka 1958/62  ZK-BJD Gisborne 16Feb1966  ZK-BLL Bell Block 1956  ZK-BLL Timaru 12Mar1966  ZK-BMP Timaru 11Mar1966  ZK-BMT Mangere 1959/61  That lot should keep you going. |
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Post by weheka on Oct 1, 2009 21:56:16 GMT 12
Peter, Some great photos there, keep up the good work.  |
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Post by Bruce on Oct 1, 2009 22:05:29 GMT 12
I see BFT is in the last batch. We rebuilt BFT at Gulf Aeronautics in the early 1990s for Jim Pavitt.  However its identity is not all that straight forward at this point! BFT was damaged in an accident at some stage in its past, and was rebuilt as CZW. CZW came to grief somewhere down south, Stewart Island I think, in the 1970s. This 1990s rebuild is actually using the BFT / CZW data plate, but a substantial portion of an early C182 Airframe (I dont know the rego) from an aircraft that was damaged beyond repair at Ardmore at some stage. Significant new components were also added, as were A188 bits (They are all the same part numbers!) to produce this aircraft which is somewhat of a hybrid! After BFT we repainted BJV, which at the time was owned by Tom McCready, in an identical colour scheme but with metallic Maroon and silver trim as opposed to the charcoal and silver of BFT. BJU and BUG also came through our shop from time to time. |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Oct 2, 2009 12:04:37 GMT 12
Great photos guys!
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Post by fletcherfu24 on Oct 2, 2009 17:41:12 GMT 12
Wehekas mystery 180 a little closer up. Does anyone know if the first 180 topdresser flew in NZ or did Cessna put a hopper in one in the USA and fly it there first before Rural started producing them?.  |
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Post by weheka on Oct 2, 2009 18:50:40 GMT 12
Pool Guy, Some of the writing on the back of the photo. Let me know if this is getting a bit boring.  BJY and mate down at the mouth of the Paringa South Westland. Sorry about flash reflection.  |
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Post by Dave.K on Oct 2, 2009 18:51:26 GMT 12
 BDD at Naseby, it was based at Taieri,occasionally when the fletcher's check took more than a day we used to take BDD home for the night.  BEL at the Timaru Rally 1976 |
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