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Post by corsair67 on Aug 10, 2011 0:33:49 GMT 12
Just been wasting time on Youtube, and came across this footage. I'd read that the Bear was incredibly loud, but I didn't realise it was this loud!  It makes the Iroquois sound quiet in comparison! ;D |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 9:19:38 GMT 12
;D Nice find. Contra-rotating blades, early style turbo props, got to be noisy and smoky. Awesome.
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Post by haughtney1 on Aug 10, 2011 17:57:03 GMT 12
Da, the sound of freedom comrade, scares the yankee dog, makes tail between legs you like?
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Post by conman on Aug 10, 2011 19:22:16 GMT 12
Saw one at Farnborough in 92 quite an impressive beast those engine nacelles are huge.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2011 20:01:53 GMT 12
Do they still have Bears in service these days?
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 20:16:52 GMT 12
Tu-95 entered service with the former Soviet Union in 1956 and is expected to serve the Russian Air Force until at least 2040.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95Not much difference to the operating life of our P3s and C130s. Seems that jets come and go but props are here forever. (I put that in here for VS who has an ongoing issue with propellers  )
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2011 21:08:38 GMT 12
It would be cool if the Russians could bring some aircraft to NZ for the RNZAF celebrations next year. As former Allies and longtime trading partners it could be possible, couldn't it? Imagine the reaction at an airshow if we got to see Sukhoi 27's or Mig 29's or a Bear! That would be amazing.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 21:21:52 GMT 12
It would be amazing, everyone remembered the Albatross amphibian at Air Expo 92.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2011 21:35:23 GMT 12
And that huge transport plane too.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 21:37:21 GMT 12
The IL86, yep, awesome piece of kit to watch. A MiG or Sukhoi fighter would be better though!
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 21:37:53 GMT 12
Or was it an Antonov 124 that was here as well? Can't quite recall.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2011 21:58:11 GMT 12
There were two large Russian transports there, one was leased by a kiwi company and was the largest plane in the world at the time. I think that was the IL76.
The other was a military aircraft (Antonov of some sort) supporting the Russian team who had the Albatross here.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 22:00:52 GMT 12
I meant Ilyushin 76. Not the largest, that would be the Antonov 225, the six engined monster. The Antonov 124 has been here but I can't recall if it was at Air Expo.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 10, 2011 22:03:09 GMT 12
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Post by steveh on Aug 10, 2011 22:25:14 GMT 12
I believe one reason the Bears & their relatives were so noisey, apart from the fact they had massively powerful engines turning an impressive no of blades was that the prop blades operate in very coarse pitch compared with most turoprops, this is apparently necessary to enable its high cruise speed at relatively modest propellor revs.
Steve.
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 10, 2011 22:49:30 GMT 12
I believe one reason the Bears & their relatives were so noisey, apart from the fact they had massively powerful engines turning an impressive no of blades was that the prop blades operate in very coarse pitch compared with most turoprops, this is apparently necessary to enable its high cruise speed at relatively modest propellor revs. Steve. You have to wonder how deaf Bear crewmen become after a few years of crewing them? Maybe they could swap notes with ex-Bristol freighter crews?  I have also read that the maritime patrol version of the Bear has never been too successful against US submarines, due to the fact that even when submerged, the US submariners could detect a Bear from a very long way away. ;D |
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Post by mcmaster on Aug 10, 2011 23:17:08 GMT 12
You have to wonder how deaf Bear crewmen become after a few years of crewing them? Maybe they could swap notes with ex-Bristol freighter crews? You can get an idea of the smooth and quiet operating enviro in this Tornado intercept vid |
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 11, 2011 0:28:26 GMT 12
You have to wonder how deaf Bear crewmen become after a few years of crewing them? Maybe they could swap notes with ex-Bristol freighter crews? You can get an idea of the smooth and quiet operating enviro in this Tornado intercept vid JESUS! |
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 11, 2011 0:38:17 GMT 12
Here's another typically dramatic Russian video of Bear's on a mission:
Love the shot of the officers all lined up alongside the runway, and also of pilot working hard on the controls during the aerial refuelling. Obviously there's no fly-by-wire on a Bear.
Can anyone ID the F-16s? Look like they're Norwegian to me.
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Post by mcmaster on Aug 11, 2011 1:46:52 GMT 12
Top vid. Such a beast the Bear, can't get over the massive refuelling probe sticking out in the cockpit view.
Yep good spotting on the Norwegian F16's I reckon they are too. Google says their 338 sqn has the white disk on tail.
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