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Post by shorty on Oct 25, 2011 10:10:15 GMT 12
I was going to mention the size of the wallet compared with the joys of a fighter/bomber/Dakota versus an Auster. Then I realised that Dave can afford any plane at all!
Tui ad anyone?
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Post by baz62 on Oct 25, 2011 13:43:27 GMT 12
I was going to mention the size of the wallet compared with the joys of a fighter/bomber/Dakota versus an Auster. Then I realised that Dave can afford any plane at all! Tui ad anyone? Shorty you stirrer! ;D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 25, 2011 18:07:50 GMT 12
I'm really not impressed at being targeted for expressing an opinion that I think is perfectly valid. Everyone here has likes and dislikes of different aircraft. Some of you have no appreciation for some aircraft I like, such as the Vincent and the Hudson, and you give me shit for my appreciation of them too. Some of you don't have any interest in WWI aircraft, or topdressers, or jets, or whatever, and if you mention this no-one jumps all over you. So why do I get it in the neck?
I have never said anything on here against the Auster, it was not me who posted those very old comments that I had made on another forum, they were brought to this thread without my knowledge. At first I thought they were posted here in some jest so i went along with it, but now I'm not so sure.
I had in the last year or so begun to gain a little more appreciation for the Auster thanks to various threads here. I'm still not sold on them by any means but I had no objection to others here discussing them. I also have read and enjoyed the threads about them.
Now I feel a bit let down to be honest, picked on for something I said a long time ago and placed here without my permission or knowledge and used against me.
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Post by baz62 on Oct 25, 2011 18:50:22 GMT 12
Sorry Dave it was posted in jest believe me!! And I think I've been on this forum long enough for you to know i would never attack someone's favourite anything!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 25, 2011 19:25:48 GMT 12
No worries Baz.
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Post by agalbraith on Oct 25, 2011 19:38:01 GMT 12
Hey Dave, it was ment in all good fun mate, sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention.
Cheers
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Post by Damon on Oct 25, 2011 20:13:32 GMT 12
I have had the opportunity to fly the Auster sometime ago.A very nice aeroplane to fly and sometimes wished I owned the one I flew then. Not a speedster ,but gets you there in style. Good on strips too,two bods and low on fuel.
Dave, I enjoy the Vincent/Vildebeest and Hudson too.Remarkable aircraft ,oodles of history.
Alright lads, back to Baz's Auster then? More pic's please..
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 25, 2011 20:53:56 GMT 12
Cheers chaps. Yes, back to the thread.
See, if I was totally uninterested in Austers I'd never have read Baz's post in the first place, now would I?
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Post by baz62 on Oct 31, 2011 20:14:59 GMT 12
A small update tonight. The very last items are now out of the storage unit and in the hangar. Hooray. But not really. Because now I have to finish cleaning out my garage to store all the surplus stuff to make room for some items that Anthony has got hold of. I am also going to make a start on a little stand for the front of the fuselage so I can take the undercarriage off and some wing stands so i can have them upright. (Take up less room that way). So once all those "little" jobs are out of the way its time for a "Parts Party" to go through everything and tag it. And then maybe I can actually do some work on the aircraft itself. Which is actually going a bit in reverse as I need to take everything off the fuselage (except the woodwork) as its all an "unknown" condition as in: is it all in good condition? and have the correct bolts been used? and its been sitting for 10 years is there any corrosion? Man I'm going to be busy..........................
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Post by nzjet on Nov 1, 2011 20:24:02 GMT 12
Without offending, Wouldnt it have been so much easier to stay in the storage unit and restore the aircraft at home in the garage? I would just get sick of driving all the way to rangoria to work on a little bit here and there after work ect. Just thinking you would achieve a lot more with the plane a lot closer to home
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Post by baz62 on Nov 1, 2011 20:36:14 GMT 12
No offence taken. But the opportunity of getting into a nice new hangar with power, lights and water was too good to pass up. And its only a 15 minute drive from my place.(I live close to the Styx Bridge in Redwood) If I had the fuselage at home i'd have no power and no lights (no power to the garage u see) and not a lot of room to work. Plus there are lots of clever people around so if I need a pair of hands or want to borrow a tool or something its all there. The chap in the hangar next to me is a home builder and fascinating to talk to as he's been doing it for a long time so a pleasant summer evening, a deck chair a coffee (or other brown beverage) on a live airfield, well that beats working from home for me! And I can take bits and bobs home if I want a break from the hangar. Are you local scraper?
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Post by baronbeeza on Nov 1, 2011 20:51:01 GMT 12
I am a little envious Baz.. I think scraper lives on my side of town and we used to have all that and more at our own little airfield. Big hangars, electric opening doors, aircraft noise, plenty of aviators about. Place is a housing construction site now and the hangar is housing bulldozers and the likes. And all the aircraft now ? Well Rangiora is just too far for some.
At least at the moment.... as hopes fade of a new airfield being established at Tai Tap, Motukarara or similar then perhaps the trek out north may become an option.
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Post by lumpy on Nov 1, 2011 22:15:03 GMT 12
And then maybe I can actually do some work on the aircraft itself. Which is actually going a bit in reverse as I need to take everything off the fuselage (except the woodwork) as its all an "unknown" condition as in: is it all in good condition? and have the correct bolts been used? and its been sitting for 10 years is there any corrosion? Man I'm going to be busy.......................... Isnt that something like Brendon Deere said about his " project " ? I seem to recall he started with a Spitfire , " progressed " to a pile of parts , then wound up with a work of art ! ;D
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Post by baz62 on Nov 2, 2011 16:55:01 GMT 12
Yeah your not wrong there Grant. I keep on peering at bits on the fuselage thinking "yep that will have to come off" and "Man that's a bit rusty" oh and my favourite "I'll have to get that checked out by someone who knows what they're doing!" ;D Nipped out there this arvo only to chuck a new latch and padlock on the door to keep nosy parkers out and my neighbour Phil (got to find out his last name...) was "home" with his wife Lyn and their hangar dog Bella ,he owns the Bolkow 208c currently for sale on Trade Me. (Phil not the dog) www.trademe.co.nz/motors/aircraft/aircraft/auction-362051589.htmIt was built in the early 60's but man it certainly doesn't look it. No one seems keen to buy it so he's flying it North to store it in a mates hangar. He reckons once he's done that then someone will want to come and see it! Ha ha. Phil has got a great workshop set up (yep jealous as!) and has a fridge, microwave, BBQ, a lounge suite when you need that important break from building planes. Right here's some closeup detail photos for you. This is part of the control column "arch" and as you can see there's a split pin but only there to stop the nut coming off and the washer has rust on it. "Arch" bearing with a slightly rusty nut and no split pin. This is the only damage suffered in storage a broken wooden stringer and a straight forward repair (I hope). The Auster's flaps are operated manually by a flap lever situated by the port wing root just above the pilots head. As you can see a bit of rust showing here and there. The two "wires" are the trim cables for the elevator. And the elevator trim tab control situated in the roof. I swear Auster used car parts as this looks like a window winder! The woodwork though is in tip top condition (yes ok except for the broken but I know!) ;D This is the attachment points for the horizontal stabilisers. Thats not rust but the remains of PA10 Primer. Part of the brake mechanism under the really dusty floor boards! Wow that left brake pedal is worn! Found some better ones in some boxes. ;D The Auster used "heel" brakes rather than toe brakes. I think this is part of the flap controls. Rust! That will do for now. I'll post some more tomorrow. But you can tell she needs a good going over to get her up to scratch.
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Post by Dave.K on Nov 2, 2011 18:24:34 GMT 12
Hey Baz good stuff, My daughter lives in Redwood, Farquhar st, will be up at christmas, be good to meet you, have a beer and a look at the old girl. Do the auster have "an" bolts or bsf like the tiger. Wood is easy to fix, just glue more on and trim the excess off.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 2, 2011 20:17:57 GMT 12
I swear Auster used car parts as this looks like a window winder! Absolutely. Cessna and Piper both did, why should Auster be any different?
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Post by baz62 on Nov 2, 2011 21:13:03 GMT 12
Hey Baz good stuff, My daughter lives in Redwood, Farquhar st, will be up at christmas, be good to meet you, have a beer and a look at the old girl. Do the auster have "an" bolts or bsf like the tiger. Wood is easy to fix, just glue more on and trim the excess off. Yes that would be good and the Auster has BA and I presume bsf although AN hardware can be used I understand. The old hardware can still be had but I'm not going to be upset if I have to replace something with AN, I want safety where it counts. ;D
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Post by baronbeeza on Nov 2, 2011 21:21:47 GMT 12
Let's not forget the Airtourer with Zephyr parts. I have even fitted toilet seat parts to an Airtourer.... a military one at that.
The trim handle in early Cherokees is a Studebaker window handle.
This is an interesting thread, I had actually forgotten I had worked on so many Austers. Recent pics of 3 aircraft have brought back memories. Not exactly nightmares but I have enough memories to last a while.
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Post by baz62 on Nov 3, 2011 15:22:00 GMT 12
Toilet seat parts? One would hope we are talking hinges ha ha. ;D The other item that looks car related is the hand brake which is of the pull towards you from under the "dash" variety. I'll post a photo when I have one. Here's some more detail shots of one of the wings this time: This is the wing to fuselage attachment on the end of the wing. Slight bit of rust showing so that needs a cleanup. Flap hinge casting all nicely painted in a two pack top coat, diagonal brace still in Pa10 Primer and a rusty looking nut. Flap just visible at the top right. Main spar and you can see the wing attachments for the wing struts, Aileron pulleys in place but nuts not split-pinned. Nice new rear spar with rear wing strut attachments and aileron hinge visible in primer. Tube also in primer is a compression strut (I think that the correct name for it) and there are several of them installed between the front and rear spars. Another shot of the aileron hinge and control arm. The wing is upside down but this shows the flaps in the down position. The frame and ribs is all steel and has a single skin riveted to it. Steel is lightly rusty so will be removing the skin to treat and paint that before replacing the skin (with the original skin if its in good nick.) Last Thursday Bruce Cooke owner of Avian Adventurer ZK-CKE (and on the forum as Bruce) was down here so we met up at Anthony's place for a coffee and to look at Anthony's T7 bits before we went out to Rangiora to look at my girl. Bruce is very interesting to talk to and because he is in the aviation business knows a lot about how to tackle an aircraft build either new (like his Avian) or rebuilding. I've forgotten half of what he told me (must remember my notebook in future!) but he will be one of the individuals who I can call on for advice. Here's Bruce(left) discussing the doors at their feet. Thats all til next time folks!
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Post by agalbraith on Nov 3, 2011 21:18:28 GMT 12
Hey Baz....you are right you did get my best side!
It was great to catch up with Bruce again, he is a great guy and we all could have talked all day about aircraft engineering.
It is amazing that the more I look the more I see differences between the 2 marques.
Cheers Anthony
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