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Post by senob on Jul 16, 2019 0:22:17 GMT 12
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jul 16, 2019 10:47:07 GMT 12
I saw on the AM TV show this morning the PM say that the "737" was unavailable to take her to Australia as were the C130s. A bit sad when you can't even get the type right!
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Post by saratoga on Jul 16, 2019 11:41:36 GMT 12
It was only an aspiration, obviously a 757 is too high up to aspire to.
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Post by jjt on Jul 19, 2019 18:21:44 GMT 12
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Post by madmac on Jul 19, 2019 18:36:37 GMT 12
It would be cheaper just to fund a lot more flight hours a year on the 757 as that's probably most of the problem (electronics on older aircraft like to be used often).
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Post by saratoga on Jul 19, 2019 19:32:20 GMT 12
Its a 737, our illusionary leader said so, many times.
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Post by ErrolC on Aug 9, 2019 10:07:09 GMT 12
Exciting times for the USAF www.defensenews.com/air/2019/08/08/air-force-pauses-flight-ops-for-more-than-a-hundred-c-130s-after-atypical-cracking-found/More than a quarter of Air Mobility Command’s C-130 Hercules fleet are being temporarily removed from service after “atypical” cracking was found. During scheduled depot maintenance, the U.S. Air Force discovered cracking of the lower center wing joint — also known as the “rainbow fitting” — which led Air Mobility Command head Gen. Maryanne Miller to order an inspection of a portion of the fleet, according to an AMC statement released Wednesday evening. A total of 123 of 450 C-130H and C-130J aircraft will be temporarily grounded while inspections occur. “This temporary removal of service will not impact ongoing C-130 support to overseas contingency operations,” AMC said in its statement.
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Post by beegeetee on Aug 12, 2019 9:14:05 GMT 12
Exciting times for the USAF www.defensenews.com/air/2019/08/08/air-force-pauses-flight-ops-for-more-than-a-hundred-c-130s-after-atypical-cracking-found/More than a quarter of Air Mobility Command’s C-130 Hercules fleet are being temporarily removed from service after “atypical” cracking was found. During scheduled depot maintenance, the U.S. Air Force discovered cracking of the lower center wing joint — also known as the “rainbow fitting” — which led Air Mobility Command head Gen. Maryanne Miller to order an inspection of a portion of the fleet, according to an AMC statement released Wednesday evening. A total of 123 of 450 C-130H and C-130J aircraft will be temporarily grounded while inspections occur. “This temporary removal of service will not impact ongoing C-130 support to overseas contingency operations,” AMC said in its statement. The 123 aircraft grounded to check for cracks are the ones not fitted with the extended service life center wing box which has been standard on production aircraft for some years. Not something that will affect NZ's new C-130J-30s. The RNZAF's current C-130Hs had their wing center boxes rebuilt in their most recent upgrade, so they're probably fine as well.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Aug 12, 2019 17:13:09 GMT 12
I saw on the AM TV show this morning the PM say that the "737" was unavailable to take her to Australia as were the C130s. A bit sad when you can't even get the type right! Well she was right wasn't she, the 737 wasn't available because we don't own one.
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Post by senob on Sept 12, 2019 22:41:42 GMT 12
The Cabinet documents related to the 2019 DCP were released the other day, link here, and they state that both the C130 and B757 replacements are like for like and looks like the numbers may be the same too. It also went on to mention that the 8 Seasprites will be replaced in 2026 with 9 naval helicopters, and the "Enhanced Maritime Surveillance Capability" will be introduced in 2023, which is their new title for the Future Air Surveillance Capability, which I presume is the 4 Poseidons, see page 28 of 68.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 12, 2019 23:59:55 GMT 12
What? We only just replaced the Seasprites. Jeez the Navy goes though helicopters like changing their undies!
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Post by gibbo on Sept 13, 2019 1:01:03 GMT 12
The Cabinet documents related to the 2019 DCP were released the other day, link here, and they state that both the C130 and B757 replacements are like for like and looks like the numbers may be the same too. It also went on to mention that the 8 Seasprites will be replaced in 2026 with 9 naval helicopters, and the "Enhanced Maritime Surveillance Capability" will be introduced in 2023, which is their new title for the Future Air Surveillance Capability, which I presume is the 4 Poseidons, see page 28 of 68. The "Enhanced Maritime Surveillance Capability" is actually the new name for the "Future Air Surveillance Complementary Capability" which was always touted as quite separate to the P8A, or at least complementary to. It was stated this could be satellite; remotely operated or standard fixed wing capability. These papers do actually get a little fuzzy about this but the DCP itself does seem quite clear this is a separate capability to the P8A... the date is the same as the P8A because both are to replace the P3K2 fleet. The complementary capability will be a NZDF resourced capability to focus primarily on civil surveillance tasks. Refer points 79 & 80 on pg 14 - and point 177 on page 29 of the DCP itself: www.defence.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/03acb8c6aa/Defence-Capability-Plan-2019.pdf
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Post by senob on Sept 13, 2019 13:51:14 GMT 12
What? We only just replaced the Seasprites. Jeez the Navy goes though helicopters like changing their undies! The original Seasprites, 2-G(NZ), were overworked and under maintained due to lack of aircraft numbers acquired due to govt stinginess and lack of foresight. Basically not enough aircraft to meet govt taskings, which really has been quite typical of NZ govts with regard to defence procurement since WW1. The maintenance problems stemmed from aircraft being required for taskings and unavailable for routine maintenance, plus very poor support from the OEM, Kaman meaning a lack of spares. In 2010 - 12 when the aircraft were due for a MLU, the NZDF & MOD project team assessed whether it was economically viable to undertake a MLU or replace them. The analysis was submitted to Cabinet who decided to replace them. The ex RAN 2-G(I) Seasprites were available for a very cheap price and modified to rectify the Aussie stuff ups. They were acquired and it was always intended to replace them around 2028 - 2030. The navy had their Wasps for many years acquiring them when they acquired the Leander frigates Canterbury and Waikato in the 1970s.
Hopefully they won't replace them with the Wildcat or the MH-60 Romeo because the Wildcat isn't anywhere as good as what it's predecessor the Lynx was, and the Romeo will be nearing the end of its life then, much like the Seasprite was when we first acquired it. Whilst it would be expensive, we should seriously look at the NHI NFH because of its commonality with the NH90. I think that there would be issues with it fitting in the ANZAC frigates hangar, but I am unsure about that. However, I won't be holding my breath or much hope for logic and common sense from the politicians who make the decision.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 13, 2019 13:55:13 GMT 12
The frigates will be replaced by then anyway won't they? (Yeah right)
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Post by senob on Sept 13, 2019 20:29:36 GMT 12
The frigates will be replaced by then anyway, won't they? (Yeah right) Who's a comedian? They've been pushed back to around 2033 -35. We really require a third frigate, and have done since 1998, but getting one in the next 10 - 15 years would be a real Tui's moment, so a yeah right as well.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 13, 2019 20:33:43 GMT 12
Current government thinking, through their Ministry of Disarmament, will be to phase out the frigates, and then consequently they won't need new helicopters either. Two problems solved for them.
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Post by senob on Sept 13, 2019 21:06:30 GMT 12
That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest either and if you want an interesting read go read the Green party's defence policy. Treasury fought for years to get rid of the ACF and now their next target will be the NCF. However, events overseas will more than likely happen to cause great consternation in the Beehive, before they get to disband the frigate force. Unfortunately it will be too late to reinstate any of NZs lost combat capabilities. I just see 1938 / 1939 and 1941 happening all over again - NZ woefully unprepared for what was coming.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 13, 2019 22:27:42 GMT 12
New Zealand was much better prepared in 1939 than we are now. At least we had three bomber squadrons then, and a load of civil pilots who could step straight into military aircraft and go to war.
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Post by tbf25o4 on Sept 14, 2019 9:05:03 GMT 12
Dave, what we had in 1939 was obsolete combat aircraft, reconnaissance/light bombers, no fighters and no transport aircraft. At least today's air force fleet is mostly modern in trainers and helicopters!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 14, 2019 9:57:52 GMT 12
What we have today is reconnaissance/light bombers, obsolete transport aircraft...
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