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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 11:41:38 GMT 12
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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 11:58:54 GMT 12
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Post by Luther Moore on Nov 23, 2011 12:12:25 GMT 12
Great shots! I am kicking myself that I missed it. Is it an annual event?
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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 12:17:58 GMT 12
I believe they are going to make a good day of it once a year.. they still run monthly open weekends, but this would've been the biggest crowd attracted to date.
I know next time to take a chair, 120123litres of water and a shade tent!
Cheers
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 23, 2011 14:22:48 GMT 12
Wow, great photos!
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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 15:30:20 GMT 12
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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 15:34:31 GMT 12
Cheers FlyJoe!
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Post by Luther Moore on Nov 23, 2011 15:39:28 GMT 12
I could only imagine how hot it was I live near the beach and it was boiling so it must of been crazy out there. I hope I can catch it next year.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 23, 2011 17:42:44 GMT 12
Fantastic shots Jason.
Does their Harvard team have a team name? Are they a regular team or do they just come together for Temora's show?
I'm curious, is your all time favourite aircraft the beautiful Hudson above that line or the lovely P-40 below it?
And which is that P-40 with the star and chin number 106? is this the late Col Pay's aircraft repainted? I don't think I have seen this scheme before. Is it an all new flyer?
And what happened to Col Pay's collection? Is it still together? Is the family carrying it on? Or has it been split up?
It is good to see that Constellation flying, I'd heard it was grounded.
This is the first time I have ever seen a photo of a Harvard and Wirraway flying side by side, interesting to see that.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Nov 23, 2011 18:20:42 GMT 12
Great shots and what a neat variety of aircraft. The Connie's left-hand nose wheel looks a bit wonky!?
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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 18:33:06 GMT 12
Hey Dave, Cheers for that... I can't answer all of your questions, but I'll start with what I can! That Harvard team are named the "Southern Knights" - They're very, very good - very tight and put on a great show. Right up there with our Roaring 40's ;-) The all time favourite is the P40 - Don't know why, I just love them... especially that particular model with the smooth/ rounded top engine housing right behind the prop.. The example at Temora is the following: aussiemodeller.com.au/pages/History/Aircraft/Hourigan_P-40F.htmlCheck out the finish!!!!! It's amazing.. Looks even better in real life. I'm unsure re: Col Pay and his collection - maybe someone else here on the forum could shed some light? The website doesn't share a great deal. www.paysairservice.com.au/pays/detail/home.aspThe Connie was great - we sat on the end of the runway inside the rental car with the comfort of Air Conditioning and watched her push back and start up... you've never seen so much blue smoke in your life! Was an experience.. excellent pilots up the front of her too, the landing was faultless. There was a Harvard / Wirraway display - it was pretty cool to watch. Cheers and beers |
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Post by Andy Wright on Nov 23, 2011 19:08:42 GMT 12
Top shots, Jason. I live 75 km from Temora but the birth of our niece in Melbourne saw us about 700 km away this weekend. Not to worry. There's always next time. From some of the guys I know who went, there's no decision on whether to make this an annual event or not (this being the first one and the Temora guys were at Omaka this year to get some tips). The museum still has showcases twice a month (first and third Saturday) where they fly 2-3 aircraft and often have a visiting aircraft display. Crowds for these are usually around the 1-300 mark and are very intimate and informative. The Southern Knights (I think I've got the chronology right) were inspired by the Roaring 40s. Steve Death and Doug Hamilton (both Temora pilots too) are two of the team and were mostly likely flying the yellow Harvard and the Kiwi-schemed one 'Harold' respectively. The US-marked P-40F is owned by Judy Pay and based at Tyabb, Victoria (SW of Melbourne) and wears her original colours, IIRC, when she pranged on Vanuatu (IIRC) where she was recovered from. Has been flying for a couple of years now and is a 'sister' to the RNZAF's example (same wartime history more or less). Col Pay's collection is still together to my knowledge with the Spit IX under rebuild. There is a thread on the Warbirdz site about the collection. I'll find it and put a link on. Here we go - warbirdz.net/forum/showthread.php?t=963I still haven't seen the Connie in the flesh let alone flying so was a bit bummed to miss this show (he says with his week old niece asleep on his chest ... so it's not all bad!). Maybe at the next Wings Over Illawarra. Btw, Dave, my fave of the Temora collection is the Hudson. Love my twins! |
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Post by aeromedia on Nov 23, 2011 19:41:56 GMT 12
Top shots Jase. I'm surprised and impressed !!! It was a cool weekend and lots of "firsts" for you to experience, . . and a few for me too.
What have you done with the other 23,000 pictures you took?
I dont find it easy to pick favourites, but the Hudson is up there near my very top. That thing just oozies warbird, character and personality.
For God sake dont tell them that the best place to get the best view and the best pictures is the carpark on the other side of the runway, or they'll all be there ahead of us next time !!!!
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Post by aeromedia on Nov 23, 2011 19:59:08 GMT 12
The Shark Tooth P40 was restored by Pioneer in NZ for Alan Arthur of Australia. It flew at Wanaka before heading across the ditch. Alan still owns it and he regularly "guest stars" it at Temora. Judys P40 is a rare Merlin powered variant. It also received attention from the Pioneer guys. That Mustang is jointly owned by Judy Pay and Dick Hourigan. Judy flew it in to Temora and gave an interesting talk about its colourful history, including being "repossessed" at 5am from the Moorabin Air Museum by craneing it over a fence and scuttling it into hiding. (One of those infamous ownership disputes). It was owned by Dick Hourigan but Judy came on board with the funds to restore it and became a joint owner with her friend Dick.
The Southern Knights: A little "pre history." Back around 1990 or somewhere around there, NZ Roarding Forties pilots went over to Australia and using borrowed local Harvards, displayed over Sydney as the "Westfield Shoppingtowns Roaring Forties." Guess who owns Westfield Shoppingtowns? The Lowy family. Guess who has set up and funded the Temora Aviation Museum? . . . David Lowy. See, it all fits. Although in those days of course there was no Temora Aviation Museum. But one thing led to another and another and another . . . . .
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Post by jasonmac on Nov 23, 2011 20:44:00 GMT 12
Cheers for the follow up Andy - great stuff.... You too, Pete!
Cheers
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 24, 2011 1:21:08 GMT 12
Ahhh, of course, I didn't twig that it was the P-40F with the different engine. Thanks.
Did they ever get the two P-40F's flying together, this one and Stephen Grey's TFC one?
Now that you mention the Southern Knights I do recall hearing that name before but not for many years. It's good to see they're still together. I recall the Roaring Forties pilots heading over to Australia to do that show, wasn't it their Bi-Centenial Airshow in 1988? I know that Mr Lowy owned the Westfield mall chain and Temora. I think since he owns nearly every mall in NZ he must make a fair bit of warbird money from this side of the Tasman, so it would be nice if he funded a tour of NZ of the Hudson and a few other things to show off to his millions of loyal kiwi customers.
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Post by spitfire14 on Nov 24, 2011 8:51:03 GMT 12
Hi Dave,
The Roaring Forties performed at the RAAF 70th Anniversary Airshow at Richmond in October 1991 using Harvards borrowed from Australian Warbirds members.
Nick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 20:18:53 GMT 12
Apparently that 1991 performance is what inspired the Aussies to copy, I mean, form their own Harvard team with the Southern Knights debuting soon after. There's a good article on them in an older issue of CWD - if you're interested Dave I can scan and forward it to you.
Jase and Pete, you lucky, lucky devils! Thank-you so much for sharing your photos of the show. Ever since Mr Lowy founded the Museum I've longed to visit and every month or so I receive their email newsletter. Great shots of some gorgeous aircraft.
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Post by spitfire14 on Nov 24, 2011 22:42:40 GMT 12
I have read that article too Zac.
I visited Temora in late 2007, about a year after the former AFC Mk XVI Spitfire TB863 moved there. I was very impressed with Temora, very professionally run place.
I also had a long chat with Guy Bourke (who on that day was lucky enough to be displaying both the Mk VIII and XVI Spitfires). Guy was (and still may be) a member of the Southern Knights, and a nicer guy you couldn't hope to meet.
It was interesting because I remember at the time there was a bit of anger in NZ surrounding the sale of TB863 and talking to Guy he almost seemed embarrassed that Temora had taken "NZ's" Spitfire.
A shame really because I believe that we should all give thanks to Sir Tim Wallis for what he did and without which there probably wouldn't be so many exciting warbird aircraft flying these days. Things change and TB863 has gone to a good home where she is lovingly cared for.
We should thank all the people, no matter where in the world they are, who find, recover, own, rebuild, maintain, fly these magnificent aircraft.
It doesn't matter where the aircraft are, as long as they are well maintained and up in the sky where they belong, that is the main thing.
Nick.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 24, 2011 23:24:18 GMT 12
Thanks Zac but I will have that issue somewhere.
Thanks too Nick for the reminder of the actual event they displayed at. I just looked out my copy of NZ Wings for October 1991 and saw photos of the kiwis in the borrowed Harvards there. The article says the Austrailian media reported the team as the highlight of the show. Although there's also a note that a photo of the team in the Sun Herald captioned the Harvards as "Pitts Specials of the RAAF". ;D
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